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    Michelle Malkin : How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens - Townhall.com

    If we treated illegal aliens the way Mexico does we wouldn't have half of it's people in our country illegally right now. Seems Mexico has a double standard. They piss and moan when we pass tough imigration laws but they treat illegals in their country the way we should be.
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    This story should be running on the front page of every paper in the U.S.
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    Re: Mexico and illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaGuy View Post
    This story should be running on the front page of every paper in the U.S.
    It should, but it won't.

    Hell we will be lucky if any of the left side of our community comments on it.

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    Re: Mexico and illegals

    I agree. Perhaps one of these days we'll be the shining beacon of freedom and prosperity that Mexico is. Just like you guys, I figure being as much like Mexico as possible is nothing but a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    I agree. Perhaps one of these days we'll be the shining beacon of freedom and prosperity that Mexico is. Just like you guys, I figure being as much like Mexico as possible is nothing but a good thing.
    Ow.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    I agree. Perhaps one of these days we'll be the shining beacon of freedom and prosperity that Mexico is. Just like you guys, I figure being as much like Mexico as possible is nothing but a good thing.
    Well played, my good man. Well played.

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    Re: Mexico and illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by sinebar View Post
    If we treated illegal aliens the way Mexico does we wouldn't have half of it's people in our country illegally right now.
    You're right, probably because they'd be dead.
    Widespread abuse of migrants in Mexico is 'human rights crisis'
    28 April 2010

    The Mexican authorities must act to halt the continuing abuse of migrants who are preyed on by criminal gangs while public officials turn a blind eye or even play an active part in kidnappings, rapes and murders, Amnesty International said in a new report released on Tuesday.

    Invisible Victims: Migrants on the Move in Mexico, documents the alarming levels of abuse faced by the tens of thousands of Central American irregular migrants that every year attempt to reach the US by crossing Mexico.

    "Migrants in Mexico are facing a major human rights crisis leaving them with virtually no access to justice, fearing reprisals and deportation if they complain of abuses," said Rupert Knox, Mexico Researcher at Amnesty International.

    "Persistent failure by the authorities to tackle abuses carried out against irregular migrants has made their journey through Mexico one of the most dangerous in the world."

    Kidnappings of migrants, mainly for ransom, reached new heights in 2009, with the National Human Rights Commission (CNDH) reporting that nearly 10,000 were abducted over six months and almost half of interviewed victims saying that public officials were involved in their kidnapping.

    An estimated six out of 10 migrant women and girls experience sexual violence, allegedly prompting some people smugglers to demand that women receive contraceptive injections ahead of the journey, to avoid them falling pregnant as a result of rape.
    Widespread abuse of migrants in Mexico is 'human rights crisis'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Well played, my good man. Well played.
    Thirded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    You're right, probably because they'd be dead.

    Widespread abuse of migrants in Mexico is 'human rights crisis'
    No they would still be in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinebar View Post
    No they would still be in Mexico.
    For your argument to make even the least bit of sense, you'd have to show that Mexico's harsh anti-immigrant treatment has prevented immigration into and through Mexico. It's quite obvious this isn't the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    It should, but it won't.

    Hell we will be lucky if any of the left side of our community comments on it.
    We got some "comments" from some of the left now didn't we ? This for example:

    I agree. Perhaps one of these days we'll be the shining beacon of freedom and prosperity that Mexico is. Just like you guys, I figure being as much like Mexico as possible is nothing but a good thing.


    Since when has Mexico ever been our standard for anything? (except Mexican food?)


    That these statements are complete nonsense will escape other leftists, they will actually AGREE with them.

    Whatever the case, why has America never enforced its own laws concerning immigration and illegal immigration ?

    Ah, because we like the cheap easy labor we get from them. And since slavery is now something we don't do anymore, we have this.

    It's the same game(s) humans have always played of exploiting other humans.

    We ALSO need them to keep coming in because our aging population is going to need them here to keep the economy strong, get our work done for us and pay taxes to pay for all of our entitlements.

    Exploitation.

    That's all.

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    Since when has Mexico ever been our standard for anything? (except Mexican food?)
    First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.

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    Re: Mexico and illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
    We got some "comments" from some of the left now didn't we ? This for example:

    I agree. Perhaps one of these days we'll be the shining beacon of freedom and prosperity that Mexico is. Just like you guys, I figure being as much like Mexico as possible is nothing but a good thing.

    That this statement is complete nonsense will escape other leftists, they will actually AGREE with it.

    Whatever the case, why has America never enforced its own laws concerning immigration and illegal immigration ?

    Ah, because we like the cheap easy labor we get from them. And since slavery is now something we don't do anymore, we have this.

    It's the same game(s) humans have always played of exploiting other humans.

    We ALSO need them to keep coming in because our aging population is going to need them here to keep the economy strong, get our work done for us and pay taxes to pay for all of our entitlements.

    Exploitation.

    That's all.
    Would you like to address me directly?
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    Re: Mexico and illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Would you like to address me directly?
    You're might need one of these if he does.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Would you like to address me directly?
    now lets play the game where we accuse each other of "dodging" ok ? :rolleyes:

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