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    National ID card

    Well our old friends in the democratic party want us all to have a national ID card. Talk about Germany 1938! Even the ACLU is against this.

    Why do the democrats want to turn us into a socialist European type nation?

    National ID Card Included In Democratic Immigration Bill - Yahoo! News
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    Re: National ID card

    I already carry a State ID card and it hasn't enabled big brother to cause me any harm.

    Bring on the National ID card as well. As long as it is tamper-proof, I'll be proud to literally be a card carrying U.S. citizen.
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    As long as I'm not required to carry it with me, I don't see it as terribly problematic. Not any moreso than, say, a social security number.
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    I never quite understood the opposition to this. I think there should be more instances were we prove residence and identity.

    With the crime of ID theft running rampant with just a 9 digit SSN, wouldn't a picture and a finger print make that a whole lot harder?

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    Why not lower the price of a passport to be comparable to a state issued card (or issue the first one free) and just require everyone to have one of those.

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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by Cari View Post
    Why not lower the price of a passport to be comparable to a state issued card (or issue the first one free) and just require everyone to have one of those.
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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by Boggernose View Post
    Well our old friends in the democratic party want us all to have a national ID card. Talk about Germany 1938! Even the ACLU is against this.

    Why do the democrats want to turn us into a socialist European type nation?

    National ID Card Included In Democratic Immigration Bill - Yahoo! News

    Yawn. You mean exactly like Bush and the Republicans wanted to do back in 2005?

    With Bush's Backing, Congress Weighing Law To Require National ID - April 28, 2005 - The New York Sun

    How's that hypocrisy working out for ya?

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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by Boggernose View Post
    Even the ACLU is against this.
    you know, bogger, i think you and many other conservatives might be pleasantly surprised at how often the ACLU agrees with a conservative point of view.
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    Re: National ID card

    Perfect! Make everyone accept an ID so the people that don't have a SS number can be identified.................and we all know who those people are. US citizens already have an ID, their SS number, end of story.
    Take a good hard look, it's coming.

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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3 View Post
    Yawn. You mean exactly like Bush and the Republicans wanted to do back in 2005?

    With Bush's Backing, Congress Weighing Law To Require National ID - April 28, 2005 - The New York Sun

    How's that hypocrisy working out for ya?
    You beat me to it. The National ID card idea has been around for awhile.
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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by chassisman View Post
    Perfect! Make everyone accept an ID so the people that don't have a SS number can be identified.................and we all know who those people are. US citizens already have an ID, their SS number, end of story.
    Except that a SS card isn't accepted anywhere (as far as I know) as a primary source for identification. A number means nothing.

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    Re: National ID card

    Quote Originally Posted by Cari View Post
    Except that a SS card isn't accepted anywhere (as far as I know) as a primary source for identification. A number means nothing.
    Exactly.

    I do like your solution, except that an ID card is a lot more durable and cheaper to make than a passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Exactly.

    I do like your solution, except that an ID card is a lot more durable and cheaper to make than a passport.
    Maybe a cheaper version could be made for domestic use, with an upgrade available for foreign travel.

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    Re: National ID card

    How much does a passport cost to make? Really?

    Edit: fwiw, while it may look like a flimsy little booklet, I would bet that my passport could survive more comprehensive abuse than my drivers license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Left View Post
    How much does a passport cost to make? Really?

    Edit: fwiw, while it may look like a flimsy little booklet, I would bet that my passport could survive more comprehensive abuse than my drivers license.
    For 100 bucks, it better be pretty sturdy. I've only used mine once, and now it's filed away.

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