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    Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    And who can say they didn't know this was coming?


    "We continue to have concerns that the law drives a wedge between law enforcement and the communities they serve, and are examining it to see what options are available to the federal government," said Justice spokeswoman Hannah August.

    Justice Department officials said their representatives did not threaten or indicate to state officials any federal plans to file a lawsuit.

    Nonetheless, Attorney General Eric Holder has left open that possibility. Holder, who was en route to Europe for meetings with his counterparts, has said he is particularly concerned about the potential for racial profiling when the law is implemented. He has also indicated that possible state pre-emption of the federal responsibility for controlling immigration is among issues being examined.
    Full article: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law - CNN.com

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Yet the "en of partisan politcs" POS president refuses to meet with AZ'd governor.

    FOXNews.com - Obama to Arizona Governor: Don't Call Me, I'll Call You

    I'd like to see jst what his schedule does allow.
    Take a good hard look, it's coming.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Obama is Executive Branch. This is a judicial issue.

    I think it most appropriate that the Judicial Branch is taking this on.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Don't look for resoulution any time soon unless the big O can dictate to the courts too (does he own their sould too?). I'm sure he pissed about having his hand forced into sending a token amount of troops in.
    Take a good hard look, it's coming.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Obama is Executive Branch. This is a judicial issue.

    I think it most appropriate that the Judicial Branch is taking this on.
    Why, so that they can find a basis for throwing out all laws regarding illegal immigrants? So that they can find a basis for opening the borders to all comers?

    If justice REALLY wants to do something they should start going after all the mayors who have declared their cities "Sanctuary Cities" in direct opposition to existing law.

    It is unconscionable that DOJ would be finding ways to avoid the rule of law as opposed to enforce it and it's flat out pathetic that so many people in this country endorse that position.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Why, so that they can find a basis for throwing out all laws regarding illegal immigrants? So that they can find a basis for opening the borders to all comers?

    If justice REALLY wants to do something they should start going after all the mayors who have declared their cities "Sanctuary Cities" in direct opposition to existing law.

    It is unconscionable that DOJ would be finding ways to avoid the rule of law as opposed to enforce it and it's flat out pathetic that so many people in this country endorse that position.
    Do you not recognize a turf battle when you see one?

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    I wonder if Holder finally got around to actually reading the law, or if he's still speaking for the US government about something he hasn't even read.

    Matt

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    It is highly probable that none of them have read it, not even the ones who voted to pass it.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Do you not recognize a turf battle when you see one?
    Do you recognize that this "turf" that is being fought over by the two predominate parties in this country belongs to the American people and NOT the government?

    This isn't a matter of which party is in charge. It's a matter of retaining our sovereignty as a people and right now we, the people, are caught between an attempt by Mexico to take over the Southwest by means of a "population bomb" and a US Government that is so into "Globalization" that they actually condone the Mexican process.

    It is up to the people of the Southwest, and the rest of America if they choose to support us, to stave off this invasion. Our federal government has REFUSED to enforce the laws which offer us protection. In th4e halls of the US Congress they stand and cheer the man that is sponsoring and invasion of their own country. Is that not outrageous to you? Is it not the least bit disturbing that the politicians in DC are willing to sell out the sovereignty of the Unites States for a few more votes?

    Our government, Sunshine, serves only its own purposes. The will and want of the people is only a priority for the political class as long as it can be manipulated to support them. It is past time for the people of this country to rise up and reclaim what is rightfully theirs! The Obama's and the Pelosi's and the McCain's MUST be removed from power and those that replace them MUST be held accountable for putting the interests of America and the American people above the interests of their party.

    "Turf wars"....bah....those are the words of a puppet. These, Sunshine, are the words of an American!

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Do you recognize that this "turf" that is being fought over by the two predominate parties in this country belongs to the American people and NOT the government?

    This isn't a matter of which party is in charge. It's a matter of retaining our sovereignty as a people and right now we, the people, are caught between an attempt by Mexico to take over the Southwest by means of a "population bomb" and a US Government that is so into "Globalization" that they actually condone the Mexican process.

    It is up to the people of the Southwest, and the rest of America if they choose to support us, to stave off this invasion. Our federal government has REFUSED to enforce the laws which offer us protection. In th4e halls of the US Congress they stand and cheer the man that is sponsoring and invasion of their own country. Is that not outrageous to you? Is it not the least bit disturbing that the politicians in DC are willing to sell out the sovereignty of the Unites States for a few more votes?

    Our government, Sunshine, serves only its own purposes. The will and want of the people is only a priority for the political class as long as it can be manipulated to support them. It is past time for the people of this country to rise up and reclaim what is rightfully theirs! The Obama's and the Pelosi's and the McCain's MUST be removed from power and those that replace them MUST be held accountable for putting the interests of America and the American people above the interests of their party.

    "Turf wars"....bah....those are the words of a puppet. These, Sunshine, are the words of an American!

    - "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! "
    Sorry, but even in your imaginary world states do not preempt the federal government. And immigration is the feds' turf. Not Arizona's.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    I wonder if Holder finally got around to actually reading the law, or if he's still speaking for the US government about something he hasn't even read.

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    Your world is so black and white that doesn't surprise me.

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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    And who can say they didn't know this was coming?




    Full article: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law - CNN.com
    Sounds like good news to me. Over due. The law is only 10-15 pages long, so it shouldn't take a small army of Federal lawyers to read it and point out explicitly which words/clauses they have concerns about. Then both teams can try to find a happy place together.


    It's all good, eh.....???



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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    I wonder if Holder finally got around to actually reading the law, or if he's still speaking for the US government about something he hasn't even read.

    Matt
    (yeah, that was a little disappointing.....)


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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Sounds like good news to me. Over due. The law is only 10-15 pages long, so it shouldn't take a small army of Federal lawyers to read it and point out explicitly which words/clauses they have concerns about. Then both teams can try to find a happy place together.


    It's all good, eh.....???



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    Re: Justice officials meet with Arizona officials on immigration law~

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Unless the feds allow the states to enforce federal law, the whole thing, read or not, is history.
    You seem to understand the rules of law a lot better than I. (but that doesn't require much.... )


    Guess we'll just have to wait and see what the visit produces....



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