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    Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    YouTube - Sheriff: Mexican Drug Cartels Now Control Parts of Arizona

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    Law Enforcement Leaders,
    I wish to express my deep appreciation for your swift and immediate response in answer to our call for help during our officer involved shooting in western Pinal County. At approximately 4 PM on April 30th, Deputy Louie Purrol was tracking six drug smugglers (later known to be armed) in the remote desert area south of I-8 and west of Casa Grande, when he was ambushed and shot. Over 200 officers from local, state, tribal nations and our federal partners responded. Your help and support was tremendous and underscored the strength of our professional bond.

    Though the investigation continues, we have several investigative leads and have identified three other Mexican Nationals, who are victims (robbed of cash and personal belongings) of the same suspects that shot Deputy Purrol. The Border Patrol apprehended two of four (two escaped) illegals along this smuggling corridor and recovered four fully loaded AK-47s in the three points area, located along the Pima/Pinal border. Two illegal immigrants with felony drug trafficking (cocaine) warrants out of the mid-west were also apprehended within our security perimeter. There were over 100 illegals apprehended within our security perimeter in the remote desert area south of I-8 and west of Casa Grande, just within 24 hrs we were there.

    We conducted an internal AAR and also debriefed most participating agencies this past week. We have identified the strengths and weaknesses of our large scale tactical response, rescue and search for suspects. We have many areas that need improvement, largely in the command and control of such a critical incident. All leaders are in agreement that we must rehearse by means of table top and scenario based exercises, to ensure our coordinated response is most effective/successful.

    I attached some recent Intel photos (taken in the past couple months) which clearly show numerous armed smugglers in Vekol Valley smuggling corridor along I-8. Yes, this is the very location of the shooting just 9 days ago.

    Photo Attachment 1 :: Photo Attachment 2

    Pinal County is not a border county with Mexico, yet we have para-military squad sized elements who are operating deep within Arizona. This is unacceptable and must be stopped. Though PCSO Deputy Purrol is safe and is back to work - must we have a Deputy killed by these smugglers before the federal government hears our plea for help?

    We are discussing a multi-agency response to re-secure this part of the Sonoran Desert National Monument, that is within Pinal County. In the interim, I have directed a change in PCSO tactics, where all assignments for Operation Stonegarden shall be staffed in teams of two Deputies. They shall be armed with their assigned handgun and at least one M16/AR-15 or similar long gun/rifle.

    Many of you joined me, when Sen. John McCain unveiled the McCain/Kyl 10 Point Border Security Plan, that calls for the immediate deployment of 3,000 National Guard Soldiers to the Arizona/Mexican border. 10 Point Border Security Plan | John McCain for U.S. Senate

    In my opinion, the only long term solution to slow and eventually stop the unending flow of illegals crossing into Arizona is this 10 Point Plan. It is comprehensive and it will work. If you have not seen this youtube video with many of us and Senator John McCain, then you should watch it. YouTube - Border Security The national focus on border crimes couldn't have come at a better time, given the heightened level of violence by drug and human smugglers.

    Thanks again for your partnership and your immediate response, when we called for help.

    Respectfully,

    Paul Babeu, Sheriff
    Pinal County, Arizona
    President, Arizona Sheriff's Association

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    So, where's the Administration's concern over this? There parts of the United States of America where the US government says Americans should not travel for fear of being killed or abducted by foreign nationals? What the fuck?

    Instead of doing something about what can only rationally be called an invasion of US soil, the administrations is more interested in suing Arizona over a law targeting the criminals?

    This is a complete outrage.

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    They're just here trying to live a better life.
    Take a good hard look, it's coming.

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    YouTube - Sheriff: Mexican Drug Cartels Now Control Parts of Arizona

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    So, where's the Administration's concern over this? There parts of the United States of America where the US government says Americans should not travel for fear of being killed or abducted by foreign nationals? What the fuck?

    Instead of doing something about what can only rationally be called an invasion of US soil, the administrations is more interested in suing Arizona over a law targeting the criminals?

    This is a complete outrage.
    It is outrageous! But with the 24/7 coverage of the spill, stories such as these get little air time. When we have areas that we should not travel, due to foreigner thugs, it should be a wake up call to the Admin. It should show just how bad things are in some areas of this Nation. It should require immediate action, no it should demand immediate action by the Feds. And an action that actually would help stop this problem. Not just lip service.

    But when the Feds do not effectively enforce immigration laws, this is what it leads to. DUH. When politicians turn a blind eye, we end up with stuff like this. The people directly affected, try to pass laws to do what the Feds refuse to do, and they get kicked in the nuts for trying to protect their own citizens. I think we ought to send a load of pro illegal Americans down to the bad parts of Az. And let them experience it for awhile. Send the pro illegal Congressmen too! And don't let them take a change of pants. That way, when they shit in their britches, from fear, they will have to live with it.

    God it is so easy to be pro illegal when you are not affected directly by it. It is the apex of hypocrisy. "it doesn't affect me, so I don't care". But this is common today here in the USA. We don't give a shit about our fellow Americans. Just as long as I am not affected, by the illegals, or just as long a my profession can't be off shored or outsourced......I am surrounded by idiots. Uncaring, self centered idiots. I hope to hell karma works is all I can say. Or that these guys get to reap what they sowed. Justice. Blue Doggy

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    YouTube - Sheriff: Mexican Drug Cartels Now Control Parts of Arizona

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    So, where's the Administration's concern over this? There parts of the United States of America where the US government says Americans should not travel for fear of being killed or abducted by foreign nationals? What the fuck?

    Instead of doing something about what can only rationally be called an invasion of US soil, the administrations is more interested in suing Arizona over a law targeting the criminals?

    This is a complete outrage.


    maybe we could get an ac 130 to do a fly over

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    I hate to be this way but I suspect little to nothing will be done about this. The current administration is far more interested in legal action against Arizona, ignoring the laws already on the books at the federal level, turning ICE holding centers into resorts with planned social activities, and generally speaking pushing for their view on 'immigration reform' which is nothing more than a forgiveness/path to citizenship for those who break our immigration laws. Just not much room or real interest on the part of this administration to do much to help parts of Arizona and law enforcement in having to deal with Mexican thugs and/or actual loss of control of parts of this country.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people.” - Penn Jillette amazingly enough, and I agree.

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    we cant even quad around there anymore.
    “Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were have 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or South Korea where we have 28,000 -- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?”
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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    Quote Originally Posted by CSA View Post
    we cant even quad around there anymore.
    Awww...poor baby, maybe you can take it out onto the city streets or onto private property and over sensitive historic and environmental monuments, like they do around here.

    Those goddam things oughta be outlawed except for park rangers. If you have to run through wilderness areas at 50 mph you should stay home

    As to the OP complaint, big deal, visitors to any National park are told to watch out for others and take care as to who they associate with. Remote areas are lonely and unmonitored by definition, so perfect for crime, so bloody what.
    Last edited by John Drake; 06-16-2010 at 09:16 AM.

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    Typically, Drake doesn't care because it doesn't effect him personally.

    Shocking.

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    Quote Originally Posted by John Drake View Post
    Awww...poor baby, maybe you can take it out onto the city streets or onto private property and over sensitive historic and environmental monuments, like they do around here.

    Those goddam things oughta be outlawed except for park rangers. If you have to run through wilderness areas at 50 mph you should stay home

    As to the OP complaint, big deal, visitors to any National park are told to watch out for others and take care as to who they associate with. Remote areas are lonely and unmonitored by definition, so perfect for crime, so fucking what.
    dude are you fucking joking or something?

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    If this is true - then clearly US soldiers should be deployed to the region to take back American territory. I fear, though, that there is more to the story than is immediately available.

    But, under no circumstances should US land be controlled by gangs, especially foreign gangs.

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    Re: Parts of Arizona ceded to Mexican thugs

    Perhaps you guys should use ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    If this is true - then clearly US soldiers should be deployed to the region to take back American territory. I fear, though, that there is more to the story than is immediately available.

    But, under no circumstances should US land be controlled by gangs, especially foreign gangs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funthea View Post
    Wow, Pram. Good for you.


    I guess I'm a new kind of liberal.

    I'm an organic-eatin, hippie, 4-wheelin, gun shootin, America lovin, dove, liberal pinko.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Typically, Drake doesn't care because it doesn't effect him personally.

    Shocking.
    No, I don't care because it's hyperbole to say the gangs "control" those areas. Do they set up checkpoints and not let people in or out? Do they run the towns and appoint bosses to oversee the fire and police depts?

    It's a dangerous area, there are several dangerous areas in this country, some are in Washington DC

    And no, I'm not joking about the Quads. Goddam offroaders are a special problem all their own all over the country, WTF do we sell a vehicle for that cannot be used legally over 90% of the areas it's designed to go in?

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