Thread: Immigrant deaths in AZ desert soaring in July

Originally Posted by Rahmota

Nice to know you wont stop people murdering children and women there. Denying them water in the desert in July is murder.

No, it's not, and all the whining in the world won't make it so...

Or do you think illegals are not people and worthy of the christian humane acts of kindness?

You should probably pose that question to a Christian.

Or do you believe someone has to be a Christian to have conservative values?

Folks, two days in a row I've had to tell people to stay on topic, and not discuss each other. I'm getting really sick of the baiting and insulting. Any more and the thread will be closed. First and final warning.

Originally Posted by Steve

Nope; won't do it.

Most of them dash a little bit of soap into the water. That's not poison. It's soap. A mouthful of soap never killed anyone, so far as I know.

They know if they caught they'll get hassled. Arrested? Even the Border Patrol agents around here laugh at the mere suggestion...

It is a chemical, and it can and will cause harm if ingested. under the statutes OSB provided, it is indeed illegal.

It is difficult for me to accept the fact that there as many "pricks" in our country as it is apparent there is.

"As ye shall sow so shall ye reap" ~ And....You can take that to the bank !

Look people: Not putting out water for people guilty of EWI is not murder.

Putting water out and poisoning it could be.

FORCING the illegals to cross the border and not giving them water would be. However, last I checked no one is making them re-enact the Bataan Death March. Theyre coming through a fucking desert of their own free will. They want to be that stupid, let em.

Originally Posted by Sunshine

The words of Jesus: Matthew 25:33-40 (King James Version)

33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.



Hmmm.....I wonder if that works in the reverse? So, if you give a little child a bottle of soapy water and make him sick, then you did it to Jesus?

Let's really follow Christ and not resist being killed. He went like a lamb to slaughter, to his own death. And he stopped one of his followers from offering armed resistance. Yeah, let's be a real follower and not even defend ourselves, or our Nation. The Bible also speaks of following the rules of the land, as the rulers supposedly are there by God's help. Yeah, folks like you only choose passages that back up your opinions, while ignoring all of the rest. What about the views of the Bible on homos and aberant sex acts? Remember when Moses came down from the Mt. and found his folks engaging in all sorts of unaccepable sexual acts? He was pissed off. Remember Sodom and Gomarrah, the crowd that wanted to have sex with the male angels? Remember what God did to that city? Seems like God don't much care for folks who live as they did. So much so, that he killed em all.

You can't just use part of the Bible and not all of it, well, you can, but it shows you up for what you are. A silk purse made from a sows ear.

What about "thou shalt not kill?" You believe this too? If so, you would be against killing the unborn, because Christ said whoever does harm to these little ones is is deep shit. Remember, Hitler even believed in the Bible, or his interpretation of it! I would stay out of the religious arguments if I were you. I doubt you are fit to use them. And doubtful you have any real understanding, because if you did, your posts would be much different. I sure as hell don't see any religious truths coming from you, except when you want to use them to push your agenda. I think Satan did the same thing when he quoted scripture to Christ in the wilderness. And anyways, when you use the Bible to influence legal matters, isn't that putting the Church and the State in bed together? I thought we had a separation of those?

Originally Posted by reality

It is a chemical, and it can and will cause harm if ingested. under the statutes OSB provided, it is indeed illegal.

So dramatic.

It "will" cause harm? It would now be incumbent upon you to provide links to support your contention that a mouthful of soapy water is going to harm someone, especially since only a complete fucking retard would actually swallow it.

I don't suspect you'll provide the aforementioned links, though, and will opt, instead, to continue your legacy of fail...

Originally Posted by Steve

So dramatic.

It "will" cause harm? It would now be incumbent upon you to provide links to support your contention that a mouthful of soapy water is going to harm someone, especially since only a complete fucking retard would actually swallow it.

I don't suspect you'll provide the aforementioned links, though, and will opt, instead, to continue your legacy of fail...

:rolleyes:

•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
Swallowing soap: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Thats what happens when you eat soap. You expel it quickly. The same would happen with a quick couple drops of any common eye drop.
And those are both under the statute that OSB listed. They are known to cause harm and both are chemicals not naturally occuring in the water.
Statute gets triggered, you get a felony beef.

Originally Posted by reality

:rolleyes:

•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
Swallowing soap: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Thats what happens when you eat soap. You expel it quickly. The same would happen with a quick couple drops of any common eye drop.
And those are both under the statute that OSB listed. They are known to cause harm and both are chemicals not naturally occuring in the water.
Statute gets triggered, you get a felony beef.

OK, I want to be clear on this; to make sure I understand the situation.

Crossing the border into the US is a misdemeanor. It would rank in seriousness with a series of unpaid parking tickets, drunk driving, Saturday night fight in the trailer park, and selling tobacco to an under age person.

However, adulterating the water would be considered a felony?

Therefore, if a peace officer were to show up at a water station and there was a person putting in soap and a person crossing the border illegally, the person putting in the soap goes away in handcuffs, while the illegal probably does not?

Originally Posted by reality

:rolleyes:

•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
Swallowing soap: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Thats what happens when you eat soap. You expel it quickly. The same would happen with a quick couple drops of any common eye drop.
And those are both under the statute that OSB listed. They are known to cause harm and both are chemicals not naturally occuring in the water.
Statute gets triggered, you get a felony beef.

In order to even be able to charge someone, though, you would need to not only know that an affected illegal scumbag drank from that particular bottle, but then you have to hope that the affected illegal scumbag seeks medical assistance for it, otherwise you 'll never know about it.

This is all, of course, assuming that the retard illegal alien is stupid enough to swallow it...

Originally Posted by Dick Martin

OK, I want to be clear on this; to make sure I understand the situation.

Crossing the border into the US is a misdemeanor. It would rank in seriousness with a series of unpaid parking tickets, drunk driving, Saturday night fight in the trailer park, and selling tobacco to an under age person.

However, adulterating the water would be considered a felony?

Therefore, if a peace officer were to show up at a water station and there was a person putting in soap and a person crossing the border illegally, the person putting in the soap goes away in handcuffs, while the illegal probably does not?

Drunk driving can be a felony. Depends on your state and how many prior dwi's you have. Possession marijuana under 2 oz is a class c misdemeanor in texas (and lots of other places). Class C is as low as misdemeanors go. And they WILL take you to jail for it and you certainly can get time for it. I know, Ive done it.

Actually BOTH the poisoner and the illegal would be carted off, in handcuffs. Why? They were both breaking the law.

Originally Posted by Steve

In order to even be able to charge someone, though, you would need to not only know that an affected illegal scumbag drank from that particular bottle, but then you have to hope that the affected illegal scumbag seeks medical assistance for it, otherwise you 'll never know about it.

This is all, of course, assuming that the retard illegal alien is stupid enough to swallow it...

actually no. Simply witnessing you adulterating a water supply and leaving it there ostensibly so someone can come across and drink it (like at a water station in the desert), is enough to charge you with reckless endangerment (iirc from osb's post).

True to get aggravated assault someone would have to drink it and link it to you.

Originally Posted by reality

Drunk driving can be a felony. Depends on your state and how many prior dwi's you have. Possession marijuana under 2 oz is a class c misdemeanor in texas (and lots of other places). Class C is as low as misdemeanors go. And they WILL take you to jail for it and you certainly can get time for it. I know, Ive done it.

Actually BOTH the poisoner and the illegal would be carted off, in handcuffs. Why? They were both breaking the law.

Correct.

Many states have felony drunk driving laws. The majority of states now consider habitual DUI offenses to be a felony (3rd or 4th offence). There can be other kinds of aggravating circumstances to a DUI in each state where they might consider the DUI itself (like extreme intoxication, DUI whilst the driving privilege is suspended, or DUI without a required ignition interlock system, etc) or an associated charge to be a felony. For example, in PA, fleeing and eluding whilst DUI is a felony although a fleeing and eluding charge would ordinarily be a misdemeanor. Obviously anything involving a serious bodily injury or death where intoxicated driving contributed to causing the injuries or death is usually a felony in most if not all states.

As for the second example, both are indeed liable for arrest because both committed crimes. Each person is simply accountable for their own crimes they committed.

Originally Posted by reality

actually no. Simply witnessing you adulterating a water supply and leaving it there ostensibly so someone can come across and drink it (like at a water station in the desert), is enough to charge you with reckless endangerment (iirc from osb's post).

True to get aggravated assault someone would have to drink it and link it to you.

That's also correct.