Thread: Immigrant deaths in AZ desert soaring in July

no, the answer is to put more water stations out there and assist them getting across!!:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Imperator

no, the answer is to put more water stations out there and assist them getting across!!:rolleyes:

That will certainly be the reaction from the left and they will add that it's Amarica's fault by not doing that sooner.

You guys are real humanitarians.

Originally Posted by TrueBlue

You guys are real humanitarians.

Closing the border would save lives.

If they want to play, they have to pay.

Originally Posted by Invisible-Bob

Closing the border would save lives.

And how would you go about "closing" a border, which is basically a desert? There's about 42 official crossings, but there's 2000 miles of border. You'd need about half the army to make it airtight.

Believing that you'd ever be able to stop illegal immigration is a just lying to yourself. And yes, the humane thing to do would be to make sure water is present, they actually already do airdrops by Blackhawk helicopters.

I'm not saying I don't care about illegal immigration, I totally understand it's a serious issue. But 99,9% of those coming across are just people, looking for a better life and future. They're not murderers and rapist. They deserve to get turned back, not to die, if it can be avoided.

Originally Posted by Maddox

And how would you go about "closing" a border, which is basically a desert? There's about 42 official crossings, but there's 2000 miles of border. You'd need about half the army to make it airtight.

Believing that you'd ever be able to stop illegal immigration is a just lying to yourself. And yes, the humane thing to do would be to make sure water is present, they actually already do airdrops by Blackhawk helicopters.

I'm not saying I don't care about illegal immigration, I totally understand it's a serious issue. But 99,9% of those coming across are just people, looking for a better life and future. They're not murderers and rapist. They deserve to get turned back, not to die, if it can be avoided.

Providing water and food would give the intire country of Mexico an open inventation. Hell it's bad enough as it is now so lets not make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Originally Posted by Invisible-Bob

Providing water and food would give the intire country of Mexico an open inventation. Hell it's bad enough as it is now so lets not make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Ehh, what? They're not crossing the border for free water and food. They are crossing it for work and a better future.

So no, even if there were water stations in the desert, you wouldn't see any change in the number of illegals, as they sure as hell aren't coming across for refreshments...

Originally Posted by Maddox

Ehh, what? They're not crossing the border for free water and food. They are crossing it for work and a better future.

So no, even if there were water stations in the desert, you wouldn't see any change in the number of illegals, as they sure as hell aren't coming across for refreshments...

Yeah the one's desperate or stupid enough are crossing. Take the element of danger out and you'll open up the flood gate. I will triple guarantee it.

Originally Posted by Maddox

And how would you go about "closing" a border, which is basically a desert? There's about 42 official crossings, but there's 2000 miles of border. You'd need about half the army to make it airtight.

Believing that you'd ever be able to stop illegal immigration is a just lying to yourself. And yes, the humane thing to do would be to make sure water is present, they actually already do airdrops by Blackhawk helicopters.

I'm not saying I don't care about illegal immigration, I totally understand it's a serious issue. But 99,9% of those coming across are just people, looking for a better life and future. They're not murderers and rapist. They deserve to get turned back, not to die, if it can be avoided.

I agree. They do not deserve to die, well, some do, the criminals, but not all. But where does their personal responsiblility enter in? If they know they can die from lack of water in the desert, it would be intelligent to stay home in Mexico. Afterall, their decision is what killed them. And that is the way shit like this works. They pay for poor decisons with their own lives. It's a risk they were probably aware of, before coming here illegally.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

I agree. They do not deserve to die, well, some do, the criminals, but not all. But where does their personal responsiblility enter in? If they know they can die from lack of water in the desert, it would be intelligent to stay home in Mexico. Afterall, their decision is what killed them. And that is the way shit like this works. They pay for poor decisons with their own lives. It's a risk they were probably aware of, before coming here illegally.

Well, why do we have a coast guard? If people are stupid enough to get on a boat, miles and miles away from anything, shouldn't they themselves be responsible for their actions and why do we help them? They brought it on themselves.

I agree on principle, that it's their own responsibility that they decided to take a hike through a damn hot desert without any water. That being said, when the solution is so easy (provide water) I'd rather take the humanitarian way out of it and provide that water and ship them back, rather than leave them to die.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

I agree. They do not deserve to die, well, some do, the criminals, but not all. But where does their personal responsiblility enter in? If they know they can die from lack of water in the desert, it would be intelligent to stay home in Mexico. Afterall, their decision is what killed them. And that is the way shit like this works. They pay for poor decisons with their own lives. It's a risk they were probably aware of, before coming here illegally.

I am sure many of them feel so desperate that they look forward to crossing the border as a release from their present life: either they will make it and have a better life, or they will die, and that will be better too.

I have a young friend (American citizen) who is pregnant with the baby of an illegal. They were happy, he worked, they stayed out of trouble, and stayed off the radar. Someone told the cops on him and the local cops picked him up and he was sent back to Mexico. Now the state has a single mother to support, he is coming back as soon as he can (its a loooonnngggg walk, and hitchhiking is a bad choice for an illegal), and America is no better off than we were before he was caught. And you know, they were the one of the happiest couples I have ever known.

Originally Posted by Imperator

no, the answer is to put more water stations out there and assist them getting across!!:rolleyes:

Well we could pick them up and transport them through the desert and then drop them off at the White House. I understand there is a garden out back that needs attention.