Thread: Hispanic Culture Should Be Invisible in the United States.

Letting immigrants stay here is why my ancestors aren't in Scotland. I've never been to Scotland and, going by all descriptions I've heard, I don't want to go there. I support former President Bush's opinion on what to do with ILLEGAL immigrants for the same reason he did, because it would ruin our economy even worse to do any different.

Originally Posted by John Drake

If, indeed, you actually are a Democrat, please PLEASE go down and join the nearest Tea Party you can find. We rely upon your kind to embarass and discredit the other side, not ourselves.

By that logic, you should join the Tea Party yourself, since you just embarrassed yourself with your own discriminatory statement.

They won't have me....they may be a bunch of lowlife scum who play politics like a buncha cowflops that just dropped from a tall cow's ass but even they have standards.

Conservatives always manage to make challenges that can be solved much worse. No one who knows the statistics of who has been wrong the most through history could ever be a conservative.
Lets look at some of their contributions to our society. There's slavery, sexism, prohibition, several wars that everyone now agrees were wrong, Mcarthy'ism, the internment of japanese american citizens during ww2, segregation, the killings of many union members, the great depression and every recession since could have been averted by more regulation, and so soo much more.
Simply going by statistics, you can be pretty sure that if conservatives are all for or against something like this immigration issue, that you should go in the exact opposite direction. You don't even have to understand the issue and you will be right most of the time.
Funny how hippies are always spoken of with contempt when their record is nearly perfect for understanding the failings of society and the ways we can improve it.

Originally Posted by Unity

Conservatives always manage to make challenges that can be solved much worse. No one who knows the statistics of who has been wrong the most through history could ever be a conservative.
Lets look at some of their contributions to our society. There's slavery, sexism, prohibition, several wars that everyone now agrees were wrong, Mcarthy'ism, the internment of japanese american citizens during ww2, segregation, the killings of many union members, the great depression and every recession since could have been averted by more regulation, and so soo much more.
Simply going by statistics, you can be pretty sure that if conservatives are all for or against something like this immigration issue, that you should go in the exact opposite direction. You don't even have to understand the issue and you will be right most of the time.
Funny how hippies are always spoken of with contempt when their record is nearly perfect for understanding the failings of society and the ways we can improve it.

I have heard the USA is evil rant before. Its old and not all the factual. You guys always leave out one McCarthy was right there were communists in key places in government. that we are the most Generous country in the world and that its CITIZENS give more than any other in the world. That we have done more for peace in the world than any other country. That we made the entire world richer. We Are the Freest country in human history. That we feed to world. That our freedom let us be the most inventive country in the world. So you go right ahead and hate the USA I on the other hand will give thanks to God that he allowed me to be born a US citizen.

Originally Posted by Unity

It costs 12,500$ average to catch detain and deport 1 illegal immigrant.
Every illegal immigrant thats not a drug smuggler would love to be assimilated and made a citizen. They could then get a fair wage and be treated like a human and not an animal.
The costs your talking about are the costs that we are paying to try and not allow them to assimilate into our culture. And whenever an immigrant group is shunned they will form in groups and maintain their own culture instead of dispersing and assimilating.
This illegal immigrant, xenophobic, paranoia is no different than any other time when we've had an iflux of immigrants. The immigrants who got here first react with racist intolerance and try to shun them and make all sorts of problems that otherwise could easily be avoided. It's called fear based decision making and its never intelligent.

Even if your figure of $12,500 were true, (you did not provide a link supporting your statement), it would be a bargain over the money we will throw away on illegals and their anchor babies over a lifetime. Once they are fingerprinted and gone -- they are gone! Illegals are animals, the first thing they did was break and enter our country. We do not want illlegals to ASSIMILATE TO OUR CULTURE, WE SIMPLY DO NOT WANT THAT THIRD WORLD HUMAN GARBAGE. Now, Mexican American citizens, we want them to ASSIMILATE, but if they aid an illegal -- we will incarcerate them.

There is really no discussion here. Illegals are law breakers, and we will dump them back over the border as fast as we can. Remember statistically for every illegal we deport, FOURTEEN freeloaders run for the border and leave. Those are the smart ones. Illegals know we will incarcerate them for 18 months if we catch them. And, if they use phoney citizenship papers they will be felons. Dumping illegals for having fake citizenship papers is far easier, and faster than deportation for immigration. Illegals/peons are as stupid as animals if they think the free ride continues. It is a new day in America!

Originally Posted by Unity

It costs 12,500$ average to catch detain and deport 1 illegal immigrant.
Every illegal immigrant thats not a drug smuggler would love to be assimilated and made a citizen. They could then get a fair wage and be treated like a human and not an animal.
The costs your talking about are the costs that we are paying to try and not allow them to assimilate into our culture. And whenever an immigrant group is shunned they will form in groups and maintain their own culture instead of dispersing and assimilating.
This illegal immigrant, xenophobic, paranoia is no different than any other time when we've had an iflux of immigrants. The immigrants who got here first react with racist intolerance and try to shun them and make all sorts of problems that otherwise could easily be avoided. It's called fear based decision making and its never intelligent.

Even if your figure of $12,500 were true, (you did not provide a link supporting your statement), it would be a bargain over the money we will throw away on illegals and their anchor babies over a lifetime. Once they are fingerprinted and gone -- they are gone! Illegals are animals, the first thing they did was break and enter our country. We do not want illlegals to ASSIMILATE TO OUR CULTURE, WE SIMPLY DO NOT WANT THAT THIRD WORLD HUMAN GARBAGE IN THE UNITED STATES. Now, Mexican American citizens, we want them to ASSIMILATE, but if they aid an illegal -- we will incarcerate them.

There is really no discussion here. Illegals are law breakers, and we will dump them back over the border as fast as we can. Remember statistically for every illegal we deport, FOURTEEN freeloaders run for the border and leave. Those are the smart ones. Illegals know we will incarcerate them for 18 months if we catch them. And, if they use phoney citizenship papers they will be felons. Dumping illegals for having fake citizenship papers is far easier, and faster than deportation for immigration. Illegals/peons are as stupid as animals if they think the free ride continues. It is a new day in America!

Americans foolishly took pity on illegals, but not anymore.
We have been suckered by freeloaders. We may be slow, but we figured it out.
America turning up the pain level on freeloaders. God bless the new Alabama Immigration Law.

Originally Posted by Latterbach

Even if your figure of $12,500 were true, (you did not provide a link supporting your statement), it would be a bargain over the money we will throw away on illegals and their anchor babies over a lifetime. Once they are fingerprinted and gone -- they are gone!

Erm...no, no they aren't.

There is almost nothing to prevent them from turning around and getting back into the country.

Where do you get these ideas?

Originally Posted by Unity

Conservatives always manage to make challenges that can be solved much worse. No one who knows the statistics of who has been wrong the most through history could ever be a conservative.
Lets look at some of their contributions to our society. There's slavery, sexism, prohibition, several wars that everyone now agrees were wrong, Mcarthy'ism, the internment of japanese american citizens during ww2, segregation, the killings of many union members, the great depression and every recession since could have been averted by more regulation, and so soo much more.
Simply going by statistics, you can be pretty sure that if conservatives are all for or against something like this immigration issue, that you should go in the exact opposite direction. You don't even have to understand the issue and you will be right most of the time.
Funny how hippies are always spoken of with contempt when their record is nearly perfect for understanding the failings of society and the ways we can improve it.

Your post is great because it actually demonstrates how ignorant liberals are. Slavery? How was that from conservatives? And as usual, you're one of those ignoramuses who forgets that Democrats attempted to continue segregation and opposed the Civil Rights Act. Sexism? How was that from conservatives? Not that it's not awesome and correct, but it's not from conservatives. Prohibition? I could give you that, and what's your point? Several wars? The ones that were supported by Democrats and continued by Democrats and resulted from 9/11, which was arguably due to Democrat handling of terrorism? Internment of Japanese? Uh ...FDR? Seriously, are you even trying to make sense, or are you just hoping that people are as ignorant as you are?

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Erm...no, no they aren't.

There is almost nothing to prevent them from turning around and getting back into the country.

Where do you get these ideas?

I agree and until we secure the borders, deportation is really just a waste of money.

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Your post is great because it actually demonstrates how ignorant liberals are. Slavery? How was that from conservatives? And as usual, you're one of those ignoramuses who forgets that Democrats attempted to continue segregation and opposed the Civil Rights Act. Sexism? How was that from conservatives? Not that it's not awesome and correct, but it's not from conservatives. Prohibition? I could give you that, and what's your point? Several wars? The ones that were supported by Democrats and continued by Democrats and resulted from 9/11, which was arguably due to Democrat handling of terrorism? Internment of Japanese? Uh ...FDR? Seriously, are you even trying to make sense, or are you just hoping that people are as ignorant as you are?

No response, you have illustrated my point about your inept understanding of political reality and American attitudes. All you have is name-calling to keep that $113 BILLION a year flowing into the hands of illegals.

The courts have determined that the Alabama Immigration law will push illegals out of schools, but also simple things such as water service to ones home can be denied without proper citizenship papers. Falsifying citizenship papers is a FELONY punishable by prison and deportation. It is a new day for illegal aliens in America! The smart illegals will run and avoid incarceration and deportation. With 'fast track' it should take less than a year to get this legislation into the other 49 States. Adios!

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Received a PM last night asking if I could sum up my views on illegal aliens in a paragraph. So, I decided to try.

The problem with overpopulation is not finding space to put people, but rather to insure them employment. When illegals have children they can not afford, someone has to come up with jobs or welfare checks for them. Illegals are unskilled and ignorant, and the United States has more than enough of those poor CITIZENS than we can handle. Why would we want more? The last thing this planet needs is more poor. Mexicans reproduce like cock roaches, they are out of control, and 12,000,000 have already overflowed into the United States. We need to make it as difficult as possible for illegals to stay in the United States. Mexicans will never figure out how to get their population size under control, and the Catholic Church is providing them safe havens. Why should American CITIZENS have to sacrifice the standard of living we have built because an inferior species can not control itself? Incarcerate and deport regardless of cost. It is a prudent long term investment. By the way, there are legal ways to dump all the illegal squat and drop anchor babies back over the border. It can be done.

Originally Posted by Latterbach

Received a PM last night asking if I could sum up my views on illegal aliens in a paragraph. So, I decided to try.

The problem with overpopulation is not finding space to put people, but rather to insure them employment. When illegals have children they can not afford, someone has to come up with jobs or welfare checks for them. Illegals are unskilled and ignorant, and the United States has more than enough of those poor CITIZENS than we can handle. Why would we want more? The last thing this planet needs is more poor. Mexicans reproduce like cock roaches, they are out of control, and 12,000,000 have already overflowed into the United States. We need to make it as difficult as possible for illegals to stay in the United States. Mexicans will never figure out how to get their population size under control, and the Catholic Church is providing them safe havens. Why should American CITIZENS have to sacrifice the standard of living we have built because an inferior species can not control itself? Incarcerate and deport regardless of cost. It is a prudent long term investment. By the way, there are legal ways to dump all the illegal squat and drop anchor babies back over the border. It can be done.

See, this is the beauty of liberalism (and Laetterbach is a liberal). The reason he's against illegal immigration is because he has the liberal view that if someone is poor you must give them jobs or welfare checks. That's literally the only reason he's against it. He doesn't actually care about the law or borders or any of that stuff. It's just like "hey, our poor need the welfare checks first and they're not getting them, so those guys can stay out."