Then Canada should lower the prices of a passport and base it less on user fees, or alternatively offer family packages.

And they probably won't do it for a day, but if in the 5 years you'll have the passport the only country you would have visited is the US and you only intended to visit it for one day, then we aren't talking about a very major contributor to the tourism industry.

What about the US?.....why should we lower our passport rates when it's your policy that started this mess? Why even go down this road? It only inconveniences legitimate travellers and businesses and does NOTHING to address security concerns according to the experts. Why hassle the people making 200,000,000 trips across this border every year when you're only after a handful of deviants? It makes No SENSE WHATSOEVER. It's bad policy, pure and simple. The terrorists must be laughing their heads off because they've achieved their aims at curtailing our freedoms through bone-headed legislation like this.

By the way, the one-day visitor contributes BILLIONS of dollars a year to the economies of BOTH the US and Canada.

IN other words "it has nothing to do with the cost of the passport that was just a little tidbit I threw in."

Bailey you are certainly free to do whatever you like on the northern side of the border, as we are on the southern side. Deal with it my friend.

Also where is your source for the billions figure regarding the one day visitor to either country. SInce you have me on ignore perhaps on of the others will ask you to substantiate that claim.

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Hey Bailey

I have read your answers. But is the below correct?

I assume that the Canadian Provinces don't have their own different criminal laws and length of sentences for larger crimes, like the states in the U.S has.

I also assume that the criminal justice/court and prison system is federal like it is in Denmark, France, Sweden etc. My impression is that these systems in Canada are both effective and sympathetic and not some ineffective unsympathetic ridiculous jungle law shit as they are in the U.S.

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Wallaroo may I suggest you actually visit and educate yourself about us before you go around casting uninformed aspersions. Time and time again you have shown that you really do not know much about us other than the fact that you clearly do not like us. Now I have no problem with your opinions of us, however wouldn't they be more valid if you actually knew what you were talking about instead of getting your information from your local media.

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You say "us" all the time as if you had any influence on the system that Im against, you only live in it! Theres the difference between us and U.S.

As I posted before I got nothing against most of the people living there and their lifestyle and culture. So its not as black and white as you seem to think when you write: "you dont like us"

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Hell Wallaroo you do not know the people that live here by your own admission other than what you read or see in the local media so how could you possibly know. I use "us" metaphorically, because I am one of us.

You clearly have no clue how our judicial system works, you may have seen one article about one case in one location and all of a sudden it is a terrible judicial system. Really how can you expect anyone to take your opinion seriously when it is based on nothing but heresay.

I don't like the Prsident either, but at least I know exactly what he has done to make me dislike him. I know what he is and I know his strengths and weaknesses. I know there are good judges and bad judges, very much like you will find in your country or Canada. I mean have your really looked at some of the decisions Canadian judges have taken lately, or did you simply assume since their legal system is more like yours it must be better.

Wallaroo everytime you open your mouth about America you show your ignorance of it and those of us that live here. Can you find things to complain about? Sure, but I would be willing to bet that if I put you nation, or Canada for that matter, under the same microscope we are under I can find the seedy underbelly of your societies as well. Should I then assume that it is reflective of your entire society? Comeon man grow up. The world is not as black and white as you portray it.

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You are correct on all counts Wallaroo.

Just ignore Gort like I do. He can't argue a point on its merits - he takes everything personally. His problem, not yours.

LMAO Gort is one of the more respected members on this forum! I respect him even though he and I are more often than not on opposite sides of an issue because he's very fair-minded and won't needlessly attack. Poor bc...if only you had 1/2 the class of Gort....

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Blah Blah Blah! It seems like we are back at ground zero. I wouldn't mind giving you credit if your posts made sense, but they don't. You say that I have only seen one example on how the U.S judicial system works, bullshit! I have seen several hundreds, which for a critical person like me is more than enough to draw the conclusion that its a pretty fucked up mess that don't work. A lot of prosecutors and investigators in the U.S would say the same if they were critical thinking persons. Critical insight or not makes all the difference.

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You've heard of hundreds of cases in the US? Well I've heard of a few in denmark and that puts us on comparatively equal footing!

You know in Canada and in the US, we recognize something called "self defense" unlike the ridiculous courts in europe. The Justice system in canada is based off of the british common law system (surprisingly enough) and as a result is far more similar to the US's justice system then it is to denmark or france.

And US States do have their own laws, but then again, your average state is larger then many countries in the EU. Of course thats because we unified so much earlier then europe did.

By the way, Hans Island is ours.

Because they're canadian passports.

Oh yeah my passport is so much trouble, it's not like I didn't already use it because most of the time I'm in the airport and it tends to make things easier, Despite the fact that I have a "passport like" ID in my rear pocket in the form of a citizenship card. And thats for travelling both ways.

If they only visit once in 5 years?! Like hell they do.

You have a shameful knowledge of canadian politics... Come on say it with me, Canada's Legal System is based upon British Common Law exactly like in the United States. Further Canadian courts share power between the Federal and Provincial levels.

http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/AboutCourt/system/index_e.asp

You think that laws are strictly federal? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS ARE FOR? Why do you think it is possible for Quebec to pass laws prohibiting or greatly restricting the use of english on signs? Because the Bloc passed them in parliament in an alliance with the NDP?!

Who's side are you on anyway? I see you have a big American flag and only a little Canadian one. Are you one of those Canadians that envy the Americans, wishing you were one of them?

Not entirely true. You can kill another person in self defense and get away scott free if the attacker wants to kill you. A bar bouncer in Copenhagen recently shot a person dead in self defense, and didn't get prosecuted.
Size doesn't matter when it comes to criminal laws.
You can keep the piece of shit for good luck!

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Well, that sounds like a civil law that are depending on the local conditions, theres nothing wrong with that.

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