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View Poll Results: Anti-Americanism Is Due to
US policies and its support for Israel 44 36.07%
Ignorance/Arrogance 32 26.23%
Lack of US Economic Aid 0 0%
US superiority 17 13.93%
Fat Americans 6 4.92%
Other 23 18.85%
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Re: Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

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You appear to be assuming that the soldiers are guilty, before any trial or judgement. I see the woman as assuming innocence. And you think that is "detestable"?
No she is assuming the person who was killed was an enemy before the trial begins or judgement is handed down. How is that any different? Hypocracy? I think so.
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Re: Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

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Hehe, wow, who the fuck is affected by such a law if not only those who belong to the club of millionairs. That really is very beneficial for my argument.

Anyway, thanks for the correction.
You're welcome Slarti. In fact I am opposed to the repeal of this tax anyway, or even raising it. I heard some figure on what percentage of the population this would affect and it was ridiculously small. Plus there does seem to be some case for this tax.
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Re: Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

They aren't being charged with murder because of political correctness, they are being charged with murder because it appears that they committed it. Murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. Manslaughter, rather, is the unlawful killing of one human by another without express or implied intent to do injury. They fucking shot him - how is that not express or implied intent to do injury?

I don't understand your signature, Swoop. How is an abstract idea destroying America? By political correctness, do you mean recognizing international law and treaties? Or do you mean law in general, perhaps?
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They aren't being charged with murder because of political correctness, they are being charged with murder because it appears that they committed it. Murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. Manslaughter, rather, is the unlawful killing of one human by another without express or implied intent to do injury. They fucking shot him - how is that not express or implied intent to do injury?

I don't understand your signature, Swoop. How is an abstract idea destroying America? By political correctness, do you mean recognizing international law and treaties? Or do you mean law in general, perhaps?
Its called political correctness.

The government is saying and HAS said we will hold our military to a higher standard. Thats all it is,... Like that one chick that got 8 years for making "Abdul zuna Labari" wear underwear on his head. All though "Abdul Zuna Lanan" most likely killed American soliders.
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Its called political correctness.

The government is saying and HAS said we will hold our military to a higher standard. Thats all it is,... Like that one chick that got 8 years for making "Abdul zuna Labari" wear underwear on his head. All though "Abdul Zuna Lanan" most likely killed American soliders.

Proof?
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Re: Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

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Wtf are you talking about? I am not saying that the soldiers are guilty. I don't know if they are. And that is my point: neither does that woman. And yet she wants to justify that Iraqi's death by simply calling him an enemy.

IMO, she is a moron. Going by her logic, then 9/11 is justified, since Al Qa'ida was just "killing the enemy," not murdering thousands of people.
No, she is assuming that the soldiers killed a legitimate enemy, not an innocent as you assume.
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Proof?
Why do you always ask for proof then typically ignore it when given?
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Why do you always ask for proof then typically ignore it when given?
I do?



Funny, I can recall several occasions where I've admitted to being wrong on something. Most of the time, however, the "proof" submitted is dubious at best.
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Why do you always ask for proof then typically ignore it when given?
Thats what liberals do. They also like to start bashing peoples spelling too when they run out of ammo aswell.
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Thats what liberals do. They also like to start bashing peoples spelling too when they run out of ammo aswell.

/hands swoop a Kleenex for his tears


Again, if I'm wrong, I'm more than happy to admit it. But, you have to prove me wrong first.
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No, she is assuming that the soldiers killed a legitimate enemy, not an innocent as you assume.
I don't what she is assuming or what she thinks she knows. I do know that she is trying to argue the premise of the case, though, by claiming that there was no murder in the first place.

Besides all this, though, my point several posts ago was that I don't see how you can hold the same position as her, "Killing the enemy is not murder." You said you certainly agree with that. So, then, the victims of 9/11 were not murdered? The beheaded victims in Iraq were not murdered? The many, many people in the Holocaust were not murdered? Or does that quote only apply to enemies of America?
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/hands swoop a Kleenex for his tears


Again, if I'm wrong, I'm more than happy to admit it. But, you have to prove me wrong first.
No your just narrow minded. Im sorry I dont need the kleenex, I can handle the pokes without crying.

You ever hear the phrase the person that smells the fart is the one that blew it?
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I'm narrow minded?


LMAO


I just want facts to evaluate before I re-examine my position. I'd say that's being responsible, not closed-minded.
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I'm narrow minded?


LMAO


I just want facts to evaluate before I re-examine my position. I'd say that's being responsible, not closed-minded.
I would have better luck with a deff person.

Howmany times has this government said its holds its military to a higher standard??? 100 maybe 500 times...but yet it still rings on deff ears?

That woman that made those Iraqi detainees wear underwear on their heads got 8 years for a reason you know.
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Re: Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

Well, given that I'm reading and writing and not listening, my ability to hear (it's "deaf" by the way) wouldn't really have any impact on the discussion.

In any case, what does your comment have to do with mine? All I'm seeking is some proof that the individual "most likely" killed American soldiers, as was stated previously. I'm not sure why this is too much to ask.
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