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View Poll Results: Anti-Americanism Is Due to
US policies and its support for Israel 44 36.07%
Ignorance/Arrogance 32 26.23%
Lack of US Economic Aid 0 0%
US superiority 17 13.93%
Fat Americans 6 4.92%
Other 23 18.85%
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That woman that made those Iraqi detainees wear underwear on their heads got 8 years for a reason you know.
Well, obviously. She submitted a prisoner to unusual punishment, which is not lawful. Hence, it was determined that she broke the law and now she is dealing with that.

Also, you are grossly downplaying the Abu Ghraib event when you say that they only wore underwear on their heads.

So what would be your solution to rid us of this disease of political correctness? Carpet bomb all concentrated populations that don't appease us? Make torture standard practice? Perhaps unleash a few nukes?
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.....So what would be your solution to rid us of this disease of political correctness? Carpet bomb all concentrated populations that don't appease us? Make torture standard practice? Perhaps unleash a few nukes?
How about if we just get judges to say "get over it"? Wouldn't that be a little less drastic?
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How about if we just get judges to say "get over it"? Wouldn't that be a little less drastic?
Get over what, the murder case? So we should scrap the case and the judges should tell the public, "It happens." Or do I misunderstand?

Also, you're ignoring the earlier point, glockmail. Do you support the idea that killing the enemy is not murder, or do you retract your earlier statement?
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Get over what, the murder case? So we should scrap the case and the judges should tell the public, "It happens." Or do I misunderstand?

Also, you're ignoring the earlier point, glockmail. Do you support the idea that killing the enemy is not murder, or do you retract your earlier statement?
Get over politically incorrect language, of course.

Killing the enemy is not murder. In fact, it is a requirement in most battle situations. That's what soldiers are trained and instructed to do.
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Well, obviously. She submitted a prisoner to unusual punishment, which is not lawful. Hence, it was determined that she broke the law and now she is dealing with that.

Also, you are grossly downplaying the Abu Ghraib event when you say that they only wore underwear on their heads.

So what would be your solution to rid us of this disease of political correctness? Carpet bomb all concentrated populations that don't appease us? Make torture standard practice? Perhaps unleash a few nukes?
No, Just dont be PC... It's that simple.

Cmon, Are you kidding me with this Abu Ghraib shit? We have people in custody that have killed Americans and they are on the verge of getting amnisty BUT god forbid some army nobody puts underwear on some arabs head and makes him assume homosexual positions.... they still have their head.
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No, Just dont be PC... It's that simple.

Cmon, Are you kidding me with this Abu Ghraib shit? We have people in custody that have killed Americans and they are on the verge of getting amnisty BUT god forbid some army nobody puts underwear on some arabs head and makes him assume homosexual positions.... they still have their head.

They should get amnesty but the reconciliation plan released by the Iraqis today waters it down. (through pressure from american democrats no less).

This will certainly not entice the Sunni insurgents to lay down their arms any time soon.

Apparently the democrats are too afraid to appear 'less patriotic' by agreeing to amnesty for people fighting against foreign occupation.

Without this amnesty i see no reason why they would stop fighting and join the political process.

The killing will continue unabated for now.

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Get over politically incorrect language, of course.

Killing the enemy is not murder. In fact, it is a requirement in most battle situations. That's what soldiers are trained and instructed to do.
Killing the armed enemy in combat situation is not murder, thats true, allthough I think this is allready a problematic thing.

Killing an unarmed civilist while there is no danger at all, is just blank murder. And as it seems the soldiers were very aware of this, as they conspirated together to hush this crime.

From calling unarmed civilists enemies the way to the legitimation of genocide is a short one, btw.
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They should get amnesty but the reconciliation plan released by the Iraqis today waters it down. (through pressure from american democrats no less).

This will certainly not entice the Sunni insurgents to lay down their arms any time soon.

Apparently the democrats are too afraid to appear 'less patriotic' by agreeing to amnesty for people fighting against foreign occupation.

Without this amnesty i see no reason why they would stop fighting and join the political process.

The killing will continue unabated for now.

Andrew

woooo wait.

You fully support America punishing their own soldiers for killing people BUT iraqis get a free pass?

lol come on now.... that makes no sense what so ever so youre better off just not posting again.

You sound like an Anti American terrorist supporter. I have no problem with the former Iraqi military getting a fee pass sense they gave and were only following Saddams orders but NO WAY for the "freedom fighters"
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Killing an unarmed civilist while there is no danger at all, is just blank murder. And as it seems the soldiers were very aware of this, as they conspirated together to hush this crime.

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Well again, for about the 3rd or 4th time, that is the conclusion that you have come to, without the benefit of full disclosure of facts. You were not there, and the stories you have heard could even have been created by the terrorists themselves- you don't know and can't prove otherwise. Yet you are quick to judge those who have risked their lives to ensure your freedom. I find that detestable.
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....You fully support America punishing their own soldiers for killing people BUT iraqis get a free pass?.
That is what The Left has come to: traitors.
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That is what The Left has come to: traitors.
Yea, and then they will say "that doesnt mean im a liberal" where do you get that? lol typical shit.
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That is what The Left has come to: traitors.
As a liberal, I must say I'm wholeheartedly against amnesty for "insurgents" (or whatever they're called) who have killed Coalition soldiers.

While I don't like that our boys are over there, I sure as shit want them to come home safely.
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Killing the enemy is not murder. In fact, it is a requirement in most battle situations. That's what soldiers are trained and instructed to do.
That statement by itself is up to huge debate, glock. I know that during a battle it is widely recognized that killing an enemy is essential to survival – no one can hold it against a soldier that kills a man that is, in turn, trying to kill him. But to just make that statement and throw your support behind it is full of problems. As I’ve pointed out, the Nazis had a lot of enemies and extremists have a lot of enemies – are their acts not to be considered murderous? What about prisoners of war? Should we have massacred the Iraqi army as it surrendered?

Anyway, I don’t see how using politically correct language ties into the downfall of the USA. Please give me a clear example?
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While I don't like that our boys are over there, I sure as shit want them to come home safely.
Amen brutha.
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That statement by itself is up to huge debate, glock. I know that during a battle it is widely recognized that killing an enemy is essential to survival – no one can hold it against a soldier that kills a man that is, in turn, trying to kill him. But to just make that statement and throw your support behind it is full of problems. As I’ve pointed out, the Nazis had a lot of enemies and extremists have a lot of enemies – are their acts not to be considered murderous? What about prisoners of war? Should we have massacred the Iraqi army as it surrendered?...
Its not up to debate at all. There are rules of warfare. If you follow them, then murder is not even a consideration.
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