If I may barge in,

Seems what you are looking for you will find at any Routiers.
Cafes and restaurants mainly for lorrydrivers.
Mostly good food, 2 to 3 menus to choose from, Three tofour courses plus entree, dessert and coffe as much as you like.
Vin ordinaire is usually included, the lot for between 6 and 8 E.

You´ll frind them all over France along the traffic routes and in short intervalls of about 10 to 12 km.

Best to choose one with many lorries parked. You´ll prbably have to sit on a bench, but that was usual in Austria too when we were young.
Don´t expect elegant places, they´re serving working people.

Same goes for Spain as well.

But there are plenty of inexpensive retaurants in Paris as well, but you may have to ask some passer-by, preferably pensioners.
Or go to Montmartre, ask one of the street artists there.

There´s one place I used to visit at least once a month for 25 years.
It´s at the Boulevard du Clichy place Pigalle on the corner of the stairway to Sacre Coeur.
Though you may not want to go there, it´s a meeting place for pimps and their ladies.
Though the serve a fantastic Chateaubriand upstairs and at very moderate prices.

I used to drive off in Germany at around 8.30 in the evening, got toPigalle at just after midnight, ate and was back at work in Germany by 7.30 in the morning.

Have fun in France, but take the route through the Palatinate and enjoy some of the regional food there too.

See if you can get "Grumbeersupp un Quetschekuche" ( Potatoe soup and plum flan.
Sounds disgusting, but tastes absolutely fantastic.
But take care that the flan is freshly baked.

And a Servus to AU.

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Most brasseries I visit do have a plat du jour, though only at lunchtime

In brasseries run by North Africans it is better to ask for couscous right away.
They usually make a shambles of the french cuisine.

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1.)
You forgot Kaiserschmarrn.
2.) You´ve never tried MY Apfelstrudel.

Used to be asked in England on every festive occasion to bake someUsually I did about four Blech
A day to bake and devoured in ten minutes.
I´m talking about 12 kilogramms of strudel. Or an eight meter lenght.

3.)
Most AustriansI know pretend to be german abroad, because if they misbehave it will always be blamed on the Piefkes.

;=))

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By no means a pie.
the dough is absulutely different, the apple slices are thin, there are raisins and sometimes chopped hazelnuts included.
And it´s a roll, the dough crust is paper thin and crunchy.

Just to compare it to a pie is sacrilege.

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You wont.
For two reasons:
1.) The dollar will fall to 50 euro cents.
2.) You dont want to get a bloody nose for being rude to someone.

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As I understand it, they want to save their oil to establish a petrochemical industry, this has been an ambition of theirs since the Shah, who was rather forward looking in recognizing that the oil will run out.

That still, however, doesn't justify their wanting to produce their own uranium fuel. They do not have large deposits of it, and even most nations that do still send it out for processing. It's a very, very capital intensive thing and sending it out is usually much cheaper, esp since the processors give discounts so as to encourage the practice.

Then you should eat schnitzel and drink some beer in Frankfurt before americans are erasing Germany from the earth. But you can also eat schnitzel in Vienna, drink apple wine in Frankfurt and get in fuddle with beer in Munich.

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Love apple wine.

Anti-Americanism is something that's misunderstood by many of the Americans who use it when arguing why people criticize American policies. I think leaders in Washington have been causing what the CIA calls "blowback" against America in the form of terrorism. What's truly anti-American is to just put a firewall around the part of your brain where critical thinking lies. After 9/11, the idea of just tuning out and "going along" is un-American as well.

Now the country is worse off than ever, bankrupted by suicide economic policies and a disastrous foreign policy that was never thought out. It's left America weaker and without any credibility, and has strengthened places like Russia, Iran, North Korea, and kept things volatile all over the Middle East, from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Palestine.

I sincerely believe that if a national initiative and sacrifice had been undertaken immediately after 9/11 to conserve on energy and reduce Middle East oil consumption, along with repealing the tax cuts at the time, we wouldn't have had to borrow from China, and the Middle East would not continue to have America by the balls.

Good criticism is patriotic, and a policy of non-interventionism historically tends to favor America more than getting bogged down in endless wars that are fought using sentimentality over strategy.

It could be argued that the policies by the leaders in Washington, culminating in the policies from the neo-cons, were actually anti-American in themselves, since America now has no leverage when conflicts pop up like between Russia and Georgia.

I'm a staunch critic of American foreign policy and of the general public in America, who are too easily swayed by loud and stupid statements like DRILL HERE AND DRILL NOW!, but I criticize all the time not because I don't like America, but because I see what she could be and stand for ideas that actually make more sense than the ones we've witnessed in the first decade of this new century.

I was introduced to Apfelkorn whilst in Germany. I could never wipe from the earth the country that gave us Oompah music. Germans ought to worry more about Russians wiping them from the face of the earth than Americans. In any event it is a stupid thing to worry about. Concern yourself more with Mercedes-Benz stock values.

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[quote=Richyrich03867;1271431]I was introduced to Apfelkorn whilst in Germany.


But Apfelkorn is something worse than Apple wine ( with regards to alcohol and headache the next morning)


Quote : /I could never wipe from the earth the country that gave us Oompah music.


So bavarian beer tent music ( That is what you´re referring to?) has finally a purpose

Isn't Apfelkorn a schnapps?

I think you would be surprised how often one can hear that kind of music in certain parts of the US.

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[quote=ThorHammer;1271463]Isn't Apfelkorn a schnapps?


It at least contains a fair amount of it. "Korn" could be called the german version of vodka.





Quote : /I think you would be surprised how often one can hear that kind of music in certain parts of the US.


So the Germans owe something to the Bavarians since their music has saved us from annihilation ? I thought it would be responsible for it one day.

Wouldn't go that far. I mean, a touch over 50 million Americans claim full to partial German ancestry.

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Perhaps you would like to start a thread about Austrian, German and French food, music and drink in the off-topic section?

It would probably be very interesting.

But it certainly doesn't belong here.

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I was also wondering whether he meant bavarian Oompah (?) music or just music by Oomph YouTube - Oomph - Augen auf

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