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Old 07-13-2006
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

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(Llooking only at on-topic comments rather than subsequent name calling...) What WEB said does not conflict with what KingDaddy said in any way. KD simply focused on the negative while using inflamatory wording, while WEB worded things in a constructive and polite manner. But the underlying logic is the same, and correct.
I already mentioned to WEB that he and I have similar agreeing statements, but he rejected the idea. However, I am not intending to be inflammatory, I'm just not trying to be politically correct, it takes too much dancing around words and I assume we are all adults here and can deal with it, well, except for Samantha, and WEB and, JHC, and WOI........well never mind, I guess were not all adults here, I stand corrected.
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Old 07-13-2006
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

It always depends on implementation. In the case of a "UN marshal" going to esablish and maintain order, why should we really care what the native leaders tell their people as long as order is being established and maintained? If markets are functioning under UN auspices and not under tribal leadership, then the people will be able to make their own decisions on what is best for them.

In the case of a UN free city, such a UN chartered city would presumably have its own internal security force, sufficient to establish and maintain order locally. Being able to build modern infrastructure would facilitate any humanitarian assistance programs in the region.
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

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I already mentioned to WEB that he and I have similar agreeing statements, but he rejected the idea. However, I am not intending to be inflammatory, I'm just not trying to be politically correct, it takes too much dancing around words and I assume we are all adults here and can deal with it, well, except for Samantha, and WEB and, JHC, and WOI........well never mind, I guess were not all adults here, I stand corrected.
Someone who doesn't agree with you that Africans are barbaric and white people never are must not be an adult?

Wacky logic! But that's what you have to have to be a racist I suppose.
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........well never mind, I guess were not all adults here, I stand corrected.
Mmmmm nothing like someone resorting to name calling. I guess we are not all adults here.
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Someone who doesn't agree with you that Africans are barbaric and white people never are must not be an adult?

Wacky logic! But that's what you have to have to be a racist I suppose.
Again you missed the obvious clear point, don’t know how, must be your hate and bias that will not let you read the actual meaning. I really don’t care for being politically correct but I also don’t want to offend anyone, if I do offend all I can do is clarify or apologize as I really do want adult respectful discussion, however the decision is not all mine.

I mentioned you because I obviously offended you by not being politically correct enough for your pallet, so I spent time and thought to reiterate my idea and clarify that is has nothing to do with race but with action and choice of a group of people as I see it. Still you cannot see that it is you that is regarding race in you assessment of me which is a form of racism, maybe the worst kind and you are using it as a weapon to judge me whom you know nothing about.

Anyway, its obvious you have closed your mind and decided that I am what you made up to feed your hate for so-called Christians and nothing but you can help that, so I wont try any more.

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Of course we all acted like animals at one point or another. It was pretty clear that kingdaddy's intention wasn't to elevate his own race over the African races, but rather to clarify the situation the tribes face. Kingdaddy's point was that the tribes feel the need to keep acting like animals and that is whats troubling.

Kingdaddy, do not feel the need to clarify yourself. Obviously, WEB and Samantha both know that they believe the exact same thing you do. The only difference is that you do not feel the need to use flowery language to say the same things, which is good. WEB, if someone says that he isn't a hater than he probably is not because someone who is would not be afraid to say it. Your insistence that he is only makes you seem more close-minded. Samantha, obviously we are all technically animals and bringing that point up is completely besides the point and only muddles the argument.

BTW, this is quite possibly the most childest argument I've read for some time. Everyone is saying the same thing, but feels that their own interpretation of the same argument sounds the most virtuous.
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

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(Llooking only at on-topic comments rather than subsequent name calling...) What WEB said does not conflict with what KingDaddy said in any way. KD simply focused on the negative while using inflamatory wording, while WEB worded things in a constructive and polite manner. But the underlying logic is the same, and correct.
There is quite a large difference between my views and kingdaddy. kingdaddy views Africans as animals. I do not share his racist views. He also thinks they deserve to die. I also do not share in that hate. That's quite a difference.


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I already mentioned to WEB that he and I have similar agreeing statements, but he rejected the idea. However, I am not intending to be inflammatory, I'm just not trying to be politically correct, it takes too much dancing around words and I assume we are all adults here and can deal with it, well, except for Samantha, and WEB and, JHC, and WOI........well never mind, I guess were not all adults here, I stand corrected.
lol Everyone except for knife wielding maniacs and yourself are adults. That's pretty funny. You have fun with your delusions and whatever substances you use or don't use to cause them. It's more amusing that way.


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Of course we all acted like animals at one point or another. It was pretty clear that kingdaddy's intention wasn't to elevate his own race over the African races, but rather to clarify the situation the tribes face. Kingdaddy's point was that the tribes feel the need to keep acting like animals and that is whats troubling.

Kingdaddy, do not feel the need to clarify yourself. Obviously, WEB and Samantha both know that they believe the exact same thing you do. The only difference is that you do not feel the need to use flowery language to say the same things, which is good. WEB, if someone says that he isn't a hater than he probably is not because someone who is would not be afraid to say it. Your insistence that he is only makes you seem more close-minded. Samantha, obviously we are all technically animals and bringing that point up is completely besides the point and only muddles the argument.

BTW, this is quite possibly the most childest argument I've read for some time. Everyone is saying the same thing, but feels that their own interpretation of the same argument sounds the most virtuous.
Well I've explained already about the difference between kingdaddy's views of Africans as animals worthy of only death and my normal views that Africans are human and worthy to live, just as much as you or I. If you can't see that, then that's very sad.

If you think that ignorance and hate are closed-minded then I think I don't mind that comment. You can be more open-minded to ignorance and hate, which is actually a total contradiction in terms, and I will be more open-minded to fact, reason, and a belief that all people are human.



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Re: Is Africa doomed??

I find it quite interesting that many here don’t even know what Racism is. After realizing in other threads that many here don’t even believe in Purpose I am starting to think that many here are actually insane, no wonder there is so much bickering, we as a group don’t even have a consensus on the most pedestrian of ideas.

BTW, I never said that the Africans deserved death, another anomaly here, people seem to here or read what they want regardless of what is written, interesting in a foreordain way.
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

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It always depends on implementation. In the case of a "UN marshal" going to esablish and maintain order, why should we really care what the native leaders tell their people as long as order is being established and maintained?
But order is only established and maintained by the people when they collectively choose to live in an orderly manner. Unless one lives in a totalitarian dictatorship, noone can really stop anyone from doing anything. You can only arrest them after they do something.

And if the African people feel that the "WHITE MAN" is back to steal their resources or whatever, then they will fight and sabotage it. Just like what is happening in Iraq.

The UN can not act like a totalitarian dictator to maintain order because that will defeat the purpose. It's a catch 22.

And that is why their leaders will tell them the "White Man" is there to steal their resources. Because the leaders are enjoying stealing it themselves. And who will the people believe? The "White Man" or the one who looks like them and speaks their language?

Isn't this the problem?
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Re: Is Africa doomed??

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I find it quite interesting that many here don’t even know what Racism is. After realizing in other threads that many here don’t even believe in Purpose I am starting to think that many here are actually insane, no wonder there is so much bickering, we as a group don’t even have a consensus on the most pedestrian of ideas.

BTW, I never said that the Africans deserved death, another anomaly here, people seem to here or read what they want regardless of what is written, interesting in a foreordain way.
You seem to be trolling. Given that your comments are intellectually vacant, your posts have been given far more attention than they are worth. You believe Africans are animals and they deserve to die. You seem to crave attention and so you are changing around what you say by behing dishonest or changing some nuances. You are just a hater who's trolling and seeking some amusement by being annoying. I've noticed this assesment elsewhere on other threads you are in. Perhaps this is all you do on this message board.


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And that is why their leaders will tell them the "White Man" is there to steal their resources. Because the leaders are enjoying stealing it themselves. And who will the people believe? The "White Man" or the one who looks like them and speaks their language?

Isn't this the problem?
I see some truth in that.
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I already mentioned to WEB that he and I have similar agreeing statements, but he rejected the idea. However, I am not intending to be inflammatory, I'm just not trying to be politically correct, it takes too much dancing around words and I assume we are all adults here and can deal with it, well, except for Samantha, and WEB and, JHC, and WOI........well never mind, I guess were not all adults here, I stand corrected.

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How did attempting to find socioeconomic solutions for the African continent turn into an issue of racism?
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