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Is Africa doomed??

Is Africa doomed??

Now OK, it's obvious that kingdaddy is a hateful person. It's obvious (perhaps not totally from this post but also elsewhere) that "Rev.Patrick" is a member of a Neo-Nazi group.

They've had their say and others have reacted. This thread may descend into a battle between racists and those who oppose them. You may also decide to actually comment on the thread topic: "Is Africa doomed?" I've made several substantive posts on the topic. You can engage those or make your own. It's up to you.


WEB

What do you think of a hypothetical case of a UN marshal going to Mogadishu to establish and maintain order in that sector?

I think that he would need political support which he will not get. Let's look at what's going on in Africa right now.


Sudan - ethnic cleansing, hundreds of thousands killed, thousands or hundreds continue to be killed by militants operating with tacit government support


Somalia - country taken over by thugs, total anarchy


Now Sudan is worse and have we sent in a force to stop them? No, we did provide some small amount of support to an African Union force to go in there and TRY to stop them. Of course they can't fight, so it's not terribly effective. So just using logic, if we lack the political will to stop a genocide or ethnic cleansing, then we lack the political will to correct anarchy.


A few other things to mention. The US has no soldiers to spare (discounting the possiblity of a draft) as we are in Iraq and Afghanistan and that is really straining our Army as it is. So the support would have to come from other countries and frankly they don't seem to want to make that kind of commitment.

Pretty sad, isn't it? They love to bitch and moan about how evil the US is, but they will not do anything more than make a token effort to fight injustice around the world.


WEB

Doomed? Nah, I don't think things are going to get particularly worse or particularly better. Sure, a lot has changed in the past 20 years, but Africa as a whole is still struggling with the same three problems its been struggling with forever (Or so it seems). In the next 10 years I think at the least Africa will still be struggling with these things and nothing will have really been done, and at the most I think another country in Africa will achieve some sort of stability (only to have another fall to pieces?). Mostly I see this happening because I don't see the UN doing squat, they've proved they can do squat quiet well, and the USA and other countrys will be too busy doing their thing to do shit (So, at best the status quo will be maintained).

You have unearthed yourself,you nhave some knife fetish thing.You also suffer from a persecution complex.Basically you are not worth threatening,sorry to say.

I agree.

It seems many people care more to complain about the USA than they care about the actual people they are feigning moral outrage over.

The lack of attention on Sudan or the Russian war in Chechenya are perfect examples of this selective moral outrage.

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lol Right, well I'm sure you will find someone who is worth threatening. It won't take long. I use mental knives to slice and dice fools, as you can personally attest to. You on the otherhand have to cowardly attack unarmed people because you cannot mentally handle what they say.


WEB

Who have I attacked W.E.B?Dont go and accuse people of things you know nothing about.'Metal Knives'??!!as opposed to plastic or wood?The only coward is you.You know your anti-White ramblings are immoral so you try to veer attention away from it by slandering me.

I wrote "mental", my functionally illiterate friend.

Right, well that's why they threw your ass in jail. For using knives on an unarmed man.





WEB

Good to I upset you.Its typical of the anti-White mindset you have.As I stated I didnt stab anyone but you are defending the so-called victim that was throwing roofing tiles at women.You have no moral compass do you?Thats typical of the anti-White ilk such as you.By the way what race are you?

You haven't upset me. It's just that given how much of your ass you've shown to this forum and how you have no crediblity left, there is little marginal utility in embarassing you further and continuing to show you what you've already admitted.

I'm sure that the word of an ex-con Nazi who incidentally also makes excuses for the would be racist asassin Matt Hale goes very far these days.

I am half black and half Chinese.


WEB

So youre half black and half chinese,well you cant help bad luck can ya!

Well intelligence and good looks are not bad luck. However, I understand your frustration. It must be rough lacking those, and then to have to go around checking off the little box on every application that says "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?" Ah well.


WEB

I did not misunderstand your intent at all WEB. I was merely commenting on the rather grim track record of foreign influence and the irony of bringing Belgium into the discussion.

Just so we're clear here, I did not know you were unaware of the millions of deaths at the hands of the Belgian king. It was a long time ago and these folks were only savage blacks, we tend to forget.

I do hope that last statement brings my intent clearly home.

A combination of ignorance and racism has done no good to the African continent.
It's all well and good to sit here in the land of plenty and do our armchair politicking but it is a complicated problem.

I do not agree with someones comments that Kingdaddy's and WEB are saying the same thing and Kingdaddy simply doesn't mince words. WEB fully admits he is not an expert and puts forth some effort. Kingdaddy is simply ignorant, dangerously ignorant, of the entire continent let alone political and socioeconomic issues yet rambles on about letting the savages starve.

And NO we do NOT all share the same view about the solutions.

@WEB, check out the neoMalthusian theorists. It's interesting.

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Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

What about a hypothetical UN action of authorizing a "UN Legion" to restore order and create a modern "colonia" for humanitarian assistance purposes?

This could be done in conjunction with the prinicple of establishing UN chartered cities. Having sufficient security force would make it more difficult for any marauding to take place, and such a defence would make more sense if there were a some type of city to defend from.

An analogy to the Roman camp system should help with the conceptualization. A hypothetical city (camp initially) could be placed in any sufficiently strategic location and allow for adequate defence.

Humanitarian assistance programs could then have a stable, and market friendly, location from which to deliver goods and services to the region.

The UN could then achieve the simultanious goals of humantarian assistance, infrastructure development, and creating stable markets for a global economy.