It was of course an allegory...what a pity you didn't understand

Ahm yes of course - when Saddam or Lukashenko won an election with !97!% - the number itself is the best evidence for a falsifiede election- but when e pro-american guy do- this is of course because of the great love of the democracy-loving population in the country

Finally - my topic was not about his election, but about his actions against the opposition, which are the same as by Saddam or Lukashenko.

This is nonsense - Shevarnadze was NEVER a pro-russian leader.
I can remember that especially during his reign Georgia gave the best base of operation for tschetchen terrorists, inspite of all russian demands.

You want evidence? I already gave some...

First: some of accused on being on this underground meeting opposition members have 100% alibi (look the quoting in my first posting here)
Furthermore - the meeting is supposed to taken place in MAY...now we have September- and nothing happened?

Furthermore- what do you think, if the leaders of Democratic Party in the USA would intend a coup d'etat 4. ex? Would they meet together with handguns and self-made explosives as if they are going to do a bank robbery??? Obviously not- they would probably arrange others to do this...
But this is what this clown Sakashwilly accuses them on- the 13 people (including some women), half of them 45+ of age prepared to attack the government bodies with guns and grenades...Even Castro needed more man
And do not forget - they 13 would do this against a population with 97%
support for the government, against the whole Georgian army?
pretty stupid idea, don't you think so? This is reality and not a Hollywood movie "13 against the world"

I gave you some...instead of MV ...would you like to answer his question now?

Do you know other languages WEB? Its a bit difficult for me to search english pages for official "quoting" of Sakashvilly...If you can read German, French or Russian...I thik I could give you some links.

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I think the majority of Americans simply don't give a damn for Georgia's democracy. And that's absolutely just - I don't see the reason they shouldn't. Democratic Georgia or isn't democratic - who the hell cares? They are useful, cheap, wholly dependent and not too demanding clowns as they serve to the US and that is enough. The american regime in Georgia is vital for the US' presence in central Eurasia. If it crumbles, the BTC-pipeline doubtful investments will go fish, Azerbaijan cleptocracy turns it's back on the US, the threat for Iran will weaken.
Why shall we all care for the so called opposition in there? What the opposition is that, if it can be problemless arrested like the knot of thieves on the accusation "on treason of Motherland"? I wonder why have all the 13 merely not suffocated in the accident one night simultaneously like the stubborn PM Zhvania. The september is hot and wrong time for the gas heaters, I suppose that is the explanaton.

The first picture is cool


Oleg- I think the US do not have any strategical forces based in Georgia...only some "instructors"...currently Georgia is only a good base for espionage.

I understood it perfectly well, it was an ignorant comment, not an allegory. An allegory is a story. You gave no such story.

Yeah, Saakashavili's election was rigged, that's why the people turned out in huge numbers in every city in Georgia, the previous administration was unable to even call out the army to stop them, because parts of the army defected to the Saakashavili. Right, all signs of how unpopular Saaskashavili was, my ignorant friend.

Are you also some kind of nationalist, like MV? Do you have any proof that the election of Saakashavili was rigged, or is that another "allegory?"

Finally, I wasn't talking to you about that. I was talking to MV about that.

Yeah, you're right about him being Pro-Western, MV probably hated him too.

The leader has an alibi, not any of the other dozen members. However, having an alibi for one meeting is not necessarily being proved innocent.

The United States and Georgia are two completely different countries. The analogy is too poor to have any value.

Well probably Sakaskhavili's popularity has declined. That is inevitable. If they take out the government, then it is a fait accompli. There is no need to go against the whole army if they kill him and it's over and done with. Furthermore, the plot may have been just at the beginning and taken years of undermining to complete.

WRT Hollywood, given your ignorant comments on the United States, that seems to be all you know of the United States.

Are you trying to cover for your cabin boy? He can answer for himself.

I know a bit of French and Chinese. Feel free to post your links.

You and MilleVanille should really get together and go on a date. Two Russian nationalists, waving the Russian flag, in love. So heart-warming.

Ahm? Is your only possibility for such things to be black or white?
The election was not rigged but bought. This is a big difference in such poor and underdeveloped countries like Georgia is.
90% of electors there do not have any idea about politics or ideologies.
When the "flower revolution" started, the population was awaiting instant change of things to the better side (finally Saka was US-made candidate) that’s why NOW, after Saka and Soros brought nothing to Georgia than poverty and us kind of uniforms the same people which were demonstrating for displacement of Shevardnadze, are now ready to displace Sakashwilli when they got a chance.

However it is absolutely nonsense to insist these 12 leaders to behave like primitive bank robbers...

look at this woman...killer lady isn't she? the only thing missing on this picture is certainly a Kalashnikov and some grenades



This guy...this Rambo...it is obviously that he could easily free himself to kill Sakashwilli and all this black-wearing guards instantly
Doesn’t matter he seems to bee in his late 50s



And after all this you blame me of thinking wrong about the USA because of the Hollywood....

So now you admit he was a pro-western president?
But wasn't it you, who said some postings before - he was a pro Russian?


Furthermore not only ONE leader has an alibi - at least four arrested members have alibis - but they have to stay imprisoned in spite of any alibis.
You say "not participating on ONE meeting do not prove someone to be not guilty"?
It proves it very well if the accusation of the government consists only from this one meeting.

Cabin boy? No idea what it is

ok...gonna look for links in French