Apparently what you fail to realize is that HE "DID" say it himself. Or have you just been out of the loop???

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And alone with that, Canada may be much smarter than the US ---IN That without all that military equipement, they can't get into nearly as much trouble as we do.

No, I am saying their propensity to succeed is irrelavant to the fucking discussion we are having which is what MOTIVATES these people. If you plan or commit a terrorist act you should be prosecuted (or killed) regardless of your motives. I will leave "hate crimes" abominations (punishing people more because their motives are viewed as worse than other's who have committed the same crimes) to the left where they belong.


Really? Who is the one dismissing the example of the Candadian plotters because they were caught? Certainly you cannot be dismissing them merely based on appearance? Wouldn't that be profiling? Certainly you cannot believe that their youth precluded them committing succesful attrocities, ever here of Columbine?

Actually, terrorists are planning and plotting daily, and attacking daily...just not here. Is it because they are more interested in hitting other places, or because we are now doing a far more effect job of keeping them off balance and preventing them from succeeding?

By the way, how long will you support "negotiating" with Iran to stop them from getting nuclear weapons? As long as we did with North Korea? Would you support whatever it takes to prevent Iran from getting nukes? Just curious .

No, 9/11 was caused by people who's stated goals (whatever else they may SAY) is the destruction of ALL infidels. We may be first and foremost on their list, but only a fool would listen to only part of what they are saying.

Also, while it was not CAUSED by, it certainly RESULTED from the LACK of action on the part of our nation. Failure to go after them with the full might and determination of our nation from the day they first bombed the World Trade Center.

Liberals run around screaming about how Bush "took his eyes of the ball" by going to Iraq and not catching Bin Laden for now five years after 9/11. Well liberals were too pathetic to even realize their WAS a ball back in February of 1993 when they first attacked! Clinton had almost EIGHT YEARS and did absolutely positively NOTHING.

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Mark Green, the author of "My Virulent Anti-Semitism and Theirs", happens to be American, Sir. And moreover, he is a candidate for Isreali citizenship.

I hope you choke on your cappuccino latte.

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Where do you get that garbage? who at any time has said that the terrorists were innocent victims. terrorists AREN'T victims, but there are still reasons why they become terrorists. You seem to be dismissing that fact, in favor of untrue reteric.

They become terrorists because they are evil extremists who's stated goal is to kill ALL infidels. Don't believe me, then take it from Bin Laden:

Bin Laden and his ilk are not simply looking for a live and let live world. Their ultimate goal is worldwide domination of Islam through Jihad.

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"It's a good feeling to shoot a bad guy. Something you democrats would never understand. Americans are homesteaders, we want a safe home, keep the money we make, and shoot bad guys!"

----Denny Crane

I am well aware of his nationality, "sir". I do not use Al jazzera as the source of choice. Wake up.

Post after post makes reference to the "evil" policies of Americans (without ever, at any point, defining those policies) and surely I have given MORE than enough references to those who claim that we "brought it on ourselves". (Try reading through the thread...)

The presentation of the terrorists as victims is clear and evident throughout these posts. It is a disgrace, but it is obvious.

1. They have realized our error. -- something you apparently have not.

2. No, I didn't choose OBL. I said it right after 911, and had recognized our problem Long long before, OBL ever said those words. in effect, he was agreeing with me, not the other way around.

Your support for "them" appears to be unconditional.

Apparently, I have to keep spelling this stuff out for you. Again you have made a leap in logic.

Predictable ≠ Reasonable

Danny said it was predictable, not reasonable. If I walk up to a large, drunk biker in a bar and I insult him, he's likely to hit me in the nose. Is that a reasonable response? No. Is it predictable? Yes.

Then here we are, stuck again. I'll spell it out one last time.

America's foreign policy ≠ America

If you persist in putting words in other people's mouths, there is no point in your taking part in this discussion. Hatred [of anyone who disagrees with your perfect view of America] that goes this deep cannot be met with rational argument.

Just out of curiousity, specifically, which of our pre-9/11 policies would you all suggest we have changed or done differently if it would have--in your opinion--mollified our attackers?

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----Denny Crane

it is BECAUSE it is today that it was brought up.

This statement represents the absolute epitome of how American perceptions have been twisted and bastardized under the leadership of GWB and the neocon administration.

At what point in time did nuclear weaponization of the state become anything close to an aggressive weapon of choice that remained "on the table", and not simply a tool for the deterrence of nuclear aggression and Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD)?

Neither Clinton, nor anyone else since WWII went this far. If I were you I would be much more alarmed about, not only the Israeli arsenal of nuclear weapons, but those who are currently in control of your own.

You have blindly accepted carte blanche the Bush interpretation for the raison d'etre for the existence of nukes, and their acceptance along side the arsenal of conventional weaponry.

Talk about shame !!! Jesus Christ man, that alone is enough reason to blow the man out of office !!!

We have heard no nuclear weapon rhetoric emanating from Iran, not even in response to the hostile threats from the American administration.

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Now there you go too. No one said anything about mollifying anyone. We have been strutting around the middle east for years acting like the king of the world.

How about for starters we quit providing unconditional support for Israel? We need to stop just giving them weapons and money to do whatever they want. We need to start asking tough questions. Like when are they going to let the Palestinians have their own state? They came in and took the land from the people that were living there. No wonder they're pissed. Wouldn't you be? What if some other country waltzed into DC and kicked you out of your house because they said they needed a homeland? What if a really powerful country was providing them money and weapons. Wouldn't you be pissed at both countries?

That is an oversimplified argument. I don't know all the complexities of Mideast politics. I am only just barely learning about U.S. politics. But I do know that playground bullies sooner or later get their asses handed to them by someone meaner than they are.