On 8 Octobre there will be elections for Local goverments and provincial Councils in Belgium. It's a special election this time. For the first time in history Vlaams Belang can join the Local Goverments.

For people who doesn't understand the importance of this. Vlaams Belang is a conservative party that stands for the independancy of Flanders.

What do you think about these elections?

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Hier ons bloed. Wanneer ons recht
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Curious what Americans think about these elctions?

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Hier ons bloed. Wanneer ons recht
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How much independence does Flaanders have from Belgium now? How much independence would the conservative party like it to have?

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Jesus was a communist!

Let's be honest here. The Vlaams Belang is not a conservative party (certainly not in the American sense, this is an American board after all). It's an extreme right wing party, comparable to David Duke in the States.

Members of conservative parties don't go on killing sprees to murder everybody that's not white, like Vlaams Belang-member Hans Van Temsche.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/...783956,00.html

Apart from that, all other parties (left, centre and right) have agreed not to cooperate with this party. Unless they achieve a majority of 50%+1 in any council, which is unlikely, they will have zero importance in the elections.
IF however they manage to get hold of a council, they will be impotent to execute their plans (such as deporting all non-white foreigners) as most of it is illegal in the Belgian, European or UN-context.

I'll give the VB some credit though. They have pointed out problems that the 'classical' parties choose to ignore or to be in denial off. It's however the solutions VB proposes that makes them an outcast party. Like the French FN, the Dutch LPF or the Austrian FPO, they're doomed to dwindle into nothingness once they participate in the administration.

FYI, there's a board member around that claims this particular party was destroyed by, and I quote, 'the Soviet Belgian government'. Interesting that we have an adherent of a non existent party on board.

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How much economic benefit would Flanders gain from independence? If it is only sociopolitical, then it would probably be better to simply amend the current social contract.

LOL, sorry, I had to laugh when I read this. I think nobody in America thinks anything about these elections. I doubt anybody here knows anything about Belgium, its history, the reasons of Hate between the Flemish/ Protestant - French speaking / Catholic part ... And anyway, even if you live in Europe, the situation in Belgium is incomprehensible. Only the people who are actually confronted to it can understand it and speak about it. At least this is my opinion.

Sorry.

Edit : And I agree with WOI who writes : "Like the French FN, the Dutch LPF or the Austrian FPO, they're doomed to dwindle into nothingness once they participate in the administration." This is the fate of all extremist parties who gain power on the strength of one single powerful but unrealistic idea.

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10 000 000 000 euro is the benefit thar flanders gains from indepandency.

Why this number? Because this is the amount of money that we pay to Wallonië each year.

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Hier ons bloed. Wanneer ons recht
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Considering that you call a Belgian invention "French fries", I guess you are right.

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President Josiah Bartlet: Sweden has a 100% literacy rate. 100%! How do they do that?
Leo McGarry: Maybe they don't and they can't add.

Who would be king of an independent Flanders?

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President Josiah Bartlet: Sweden has a 100% literacy rate. 100%! How do they do that?
Leo McGarry: Maybe they don't and they can't add.

No kings for the Vlaams Belang.
I guess they'll call it a ReichsFührer or something

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"Say not, 'When I have free time I shall study'; for you may perhaps never have any free time"
Hillel the Elder

Well, in that case, it is just another point that proves that Vlaams Belang is not a conservative party.

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President Josiah Bartlet: Sweden has a 100% literacy rate. 100%! How do they do that?
Leo McGarry: Maybe they don't and they can't add.

Minister-president, president,.......

An independant Flanders will be an republic.

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Hier ons bloed. Wanneer ons recht
Here our blood. When our right

I see, but considering this, how can you decently call your party conservative?

The republic is a socialistic form of government, and Vlaams Belang is a nationalist party. I guess we can call you National Socialists, then?

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President Josiah Bartlet: Sweden has a 100% literacy rate. 100%! How do they do that?
Leo McGarry: Maybe they don't and they can't add.

Republic =Socialistic ????????

France, USA,Switzerland,... Socialistic countries ????????????????????

Def Republic: a republic is a state or country that is led by people whose political power is based on principles that are not beyond the control of the people of that state or country:

Besides, Vlaams belang is a conservative party like the republican party in the US. We are not Nazi's like SPa, Spirit, Groen, VLD.... .

The only Nationalism we can identify with is Flemish-Nationalisme.

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Hier ons bloed. Wanneer ons recht
Here our blood. When our right

Yeah... first, such numbers are always highly suspect to me since they only add and add and add without thinking what they add... ,
second yoou forget about the money that you get back, just by having access to the market dude that's thousands of jobs and billions of euros.

If the people of flanders think though that they should get independant then go ahead and you will find an isolated and impoverished country. God, those right wing nuts really drive me crazy...

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