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EricOKC · #31 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by laca

The following facts are undeniable:

Wanna bet? They arent facts anyway.

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Originally Posted by laca

-The black and Latino population in America is discriminated, oppressed and considered as second class citizens.

ROFL! Oh thats funny! Its also far from true.

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Originally Posted by laca

-Much higher percentage of Black and Latino people are imprisoned and killed in American Jails ( then white Anglo population )

Oddly they commit a much higher percentage of the CRIME. Might have SOMETHING to do with it, you think? Criminals are NOT spread in equal percentages through every race my friend.

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Originally Posted by laca

-Americans don’t have enough intellectual capacity to distinguish CIA and Bushes propaganda from the real life around them. The voice of few remained intellectuals can not be heard because majority of American people are hypnotized and overwhelmed by materialism, social Darwinism and cruel inhuman capitalism that make them incapacitated to communicate with the rest of the world in the manner of civilized people. Even if you are considered as a winner, It is not necessary to oppress and kill people to feel safe, you also can talk to them with minimum mutual respect.

THAT is hardly a fact - its nothing more than communist dialectic.

iamwhatiseem · #32 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

Shall we rename the OP poster "Cubasocialist"...

Ant64 · #33 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

Has Cuba been in any way irrational in international ties?

It's surprising to see that Cuba has maintained the position of Communist reform for so long.
Perhaps it is due to having the US so close. I wouldn't call Communism wrong...usually it never becomes ideal, however under Castro, who can disagree with the advances that were made?

Non Sequitur · #34 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

You know whats funny, laca's posts sound exactly like the crap the USSR used to yell at us during the cold war.

Ant64 · #35 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

Amazing that such polarised viewpoints came about really, isn't it? ...

doniston · #36 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by EricOKC

Wanna bet? They arent facts anyway.

ROFL! Oh thats funny! Its also far from true.

Oddly they commit a much higher percentage of the CRIME. Might have SOMETHING to do with it, you think? Criminals are NOT spread in equal percentages through every race my friend.

THAT is hardly a fact - its nothing more than communist dialectic.

Thanks for playing - go fuck yourself.

I must sy ---Yourn are a GRAND example and role model for Americans

"NOT"

Jefe · #37 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by doniston

Matt have you ever been to New York. people do refer to their apartments as "FLATS"...

FWIW, I've lived here 8 years, and I've never heard anyone refer to their apartment as a "flat". Even if they own a co-op or condo, they still often refer to it as their apartment.

drgoodtrips · #38 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by laca

-Americans don’t have enough intellectual capacity to distinguish CIA and Bushes propaganda from the real life around them. The voice of few remained intellectuals can not be heard because majority of American people are hypnotized and overwhelmed by materialism, social Darwinism and cruel inhuman capitalism that make them incapacitated to communicate with the rest of the world in the manner of civilized people. Even if you are considered as a winner, It is not necessary to oppress and kill people to feel safe, you also can talk to them with minimum mutual respect.

Thank God you're here to spew truth from every orifice and save our slow-witted souls!

goober · #39 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

The first post is believable.
It is a fact that Cuba, which has some of the finest medical schools in the world does provide medical education for disadvantaged Americans, in return for the promise that they will serve the disadvantaged communities they came from.

The language in the post is that of a person who speaks english as a second language, and it's not uncommon for half-siblings to have different last names and yet still refer to each other as brother and sister.
I didn't see anything in the post that warranted calling the poster a liar.

If you think that blacks and latinos experience no discrimination in the US, your head has to so far up your ass that you can see your teeth.

goober · #40 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by Jefe

FWIW, I've lived here 8 years, and I've never heard anyone refer to their apartment as a "flat". Even if they own a co-op or condo, they still often refer to it as their apartment.

Was he quoting the woman, or relaying her story, if I heard a story about something hitting a windscreen, I would probably retell it using the word windshield.

Jefe · #41 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by goober

Was he quoting the woman, or relaying her story, if I heard a story about something hitting a windscreen, I would probably retell it using the word windshield.

I have no idea. I was just disputing what Doniston had said about appartments vs. flats in NY.

MattLarson · #42 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by goober

Was he quoting the woman, or relaying her story, if I heard a story about something hitting a windscreen, I would probably retell it using the word windshield.

It appears in quotation marks, so it appears this is allegedly a direct quote of the woman.

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"In Canada I met some of my countrymen who rejected to go to Iraq and had to escape as refugees. Majority of them told me they were much happier over there and didn't have intention to go back to USA. Later my mother told me that she was intimidated by FBI agents who “were searching for hidden drugs” in our flat, but actually letting her know that I was on their black list as a “potential terrorist”. I am so happy here I don’t want to go back to USA and again to experience discrimination, miserable life of my black community and now probably long term prison based on false accusations. At the same time I am fully aware that my mother is on her own, if I can bring her here with me than my life will be fulfilled”.

Matt

Robert · #43 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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-Much higher percentage of Black and Latino people are imprisoned and killed in American Jails ( then white Anglo population )

As opposed to the stellar human rights record of cuba?

http://www.answers.com/topic/human-rights-in-cuba

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Dr. Armando Lago, of the Association for the Study of the Cuban Economy, a group of academics whose board of directors is almost entirely comprised of Cuban exiles, [2] cites the following numbers in "The Human Cost of Social Revolution":

15,000 to 18,000 executed for counterrevolutionary activities
1,000 extrajudicial assassinations
250 disappeared
500 died in prison for lack of medical attention
500 murdered in prison by guards
150 extrajudicial assassinations of women

Lago calculated these numbers "using old news accounts, U.S. and Organization of American States records and family histories." [3] Lago's study relies heavily on records of the US State Department and the Organization of American States.

Other estimates of the number of political executions reach as high as 141,000. Although I don't know what those estimates are based on and to be fair some are as low as 5,000. Still, not sounding like a paradise to me.

trailblazer · #44 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by Robert

As opposed to the stellar human rights record of cuba?

http://www.answers.com/topic/human-rights-in-cuba

Other estimates of the number of political executions reach as high as 141,000. Although I don't know what those estimates are based on and to be fair some are as low as 5,000. Still, not sounding like a paradise to me.

But now at least you can leave if you don't like it.

trailblazer · #45 (**permalink**) 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

It appears in quotation marks, so it appears this is allegedly a direct quote of the woman.

Did it ever occur to you that, if she's living in Canada, she might very well have learned to speak "British" English?

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