At least one nation is taking the action needed to reduce the ever increasing flow of immigrants. Backed by a national referendum 67.8% of voters supported the new measures like:

Require for asylum seekers to produce valid identity papers within 48 hours.

Cut welfare payments to those whose applications are rejected.

Hopefully EU nations will follow the example. As the actions from nations like the UK and Spain have proven woeful.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5375106.stm



EU press coverage

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5376740.stm

I agree

Sweden, Germany, Switserland, Denmark, Over one year Belgium. There is still hope for a safe and strong Europe.

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EU members won't follow. No way. And the answer why is simple:

The Swiss asylum law is clearly violating EU law. There are some points of it that misregard completely EU minimal standards.

In case any EU member should decide on a similar asylum regulation, the European Court will force it to change those points that inifringe EU standards on human rights etc. And thats good so.

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When the Nazis came for the Unionists I remained silent, I was no Unionist.
When the Nazis came for the Social Democrats I remained silent, I was no Social Democrat.
When the Nazis came for the Jews I remained silent, I was no Jew.
When the Nazis came for me, there was no one left who could protest.

Another problem with implementing tighter laws in EU scale is seen here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4358985.stm

Either people start making more babies fast, or we need more immigration in the future, pretty simple issue.

Indeed. Allthough one has to clearly differentiate between asylum and economic immigration. Asylum is a human right, so hardly comparable to economic immigration. But propably those that support that asylum law also tend to support zero immigration too.

Because you mention this problem. Have you heard about the French "babyboom"? Allthough they are with 1,9 childrens in average per family still slightly below what would be needed, but unreached in the rest of Europe.
Whats the reason for that? If they can, why does the rest of Europe can not follow it?

It would be time.

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When the Nazis came for the communists I remained silent, I was no communist.
When the Nazis came for the Unionists I remained silent, I was no Unionist.
When the Nazis came for the Social Democrats I remained silent, I was no Social Democrat.
When the Nazis came for the Jews I remained silent, I was no Jew.
When the Nazis came for me, there was no one left who could protest.

Must be hard living in a system where 2/3 of your voters can vote for a referendum only to be overruled by some distant court.

Matt

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Sorry Matt.

I have here a map for you:





Do you like to overthink your comment?

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When the Nazis came for the communists I remained silent, I was no communist.
When the Nazis came for the Unionists I remained silent, I was no Unionist.
When the Nazis came for the Social Democrats I remained silent, I was no Social Democrat.
When the Nazis came for the Jews I remained silent, I was no Jew.
When the Nazis came for me, there was no one left who could protest.

It is truly hard to live in a system where member states are required to uphold human rights..

Or try to follow the idiotic EU directives..
Did Matt mean that no matter what we up here decide, the EU can overrule it?

Well, according to the OP, over 2/3 of the Swiss population want to do something about their immigration situation, and the EU can step in and overrule them.

Doesn't sound very democratic to me. More like totalitarian.

Matt

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At least in Italy and some other south european countries some of those ridiculous EU directives have been ignored and have they gotten any serious trouble from it? Why are we so damn serious about fulfilling every single word in EU legislations? There are the important matters and then there are some banana directives, and I think member states should be left with some ... äh joustoa saada käyttää omaa järkeä.

Well, Switzerland isn't a EU member. I'm not an expert on this topic, but I guess we are talking about international treaties here.

Switserland is not part of the EU.
But guess twice why I despise the EU and its unfunctional bureaucracy?

Yes, I understand the Swiss are not in the EU.

But if an EU member state's population voted for a similar law, the EU could over-rule them.

That's my point.

Matt

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The EU can also overrule existing laws.. It does not stop there either.
It is still unusual for the Bureau of EU to overrule nations own decidions, at the moment, currently, yet, still.
That will change soon enough, though.