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Old 02-14-2007
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Re: Russia in the future

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And I thought that Russians would start worrying about their birthrate and diminishing population. Some social programs perhaps instead of putting so much money in weaponry.
You're right, but we're forced to do so
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You're right, but we're forced to do so
forced? who is threatening to invade?
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forced? who is threatening to invade?
it doesn't matter who. old idiots want to play the game for the second time. your idiots are moving radars and missles to our borders, our idiots think "oh f.ck! they're coming!".
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forced? who is threatening to invade?
Robert Gates declared, that the US must get prepared for full-scale military conflict with the big country like China and Russia. What do you expect? In few years we all will likely witness the Pentagon hawks inventing the doctrine of acceptable nuclear damage. They really want to bring the world to the times of convenient wars by suppressing the nuclear potentials of other countries - that's plain as the stick..
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it doesn't matter who. old idiots want to play the game for the second time. your idiots are moving radars and missles to our borders, our idiots think "oh f.ck! they're coming!".
so, would you admit it is an exaggerated threat put forward by Russian leaders?
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Robert Gates declared, that the US must get prepared for full-scale military conflict with the big country like China and Russia. What do you expect? In few years we all will likely witness the Pentagon hawks inventing the doctrine of acceptable nuclear damage. They really want to bring the world to the times of convenient wars by suppressing the nuclear potentials of other countries - that's plain as the stick..
Would you also agree that there are also Kremlin hawks? I mean, there is no reason for the US to go to war with Russia. Russia isn't a threat militarily anymore, and the only reason we are still bickering is because Russia continues to meddle in the affairs of former Soviet territories (Baltics)
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so, would you admit it is an exaggerated threat put forward by Russian leaders?
a threat of what? of nucliar war? i think it's impossible. hope, you think so too.
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a threat of what? of nucliar war? i think it's impossible. hope, you think so too.
I agree, but I ment the supposed American threat. Then there is the question; why is Russia exaggerating the threat to justify increased military spending at the cost of the Russian people's well being?
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why is Russia exaggerating the threat to justify increased military spending at the cost of the Russian people's well being?
And what you propose? What should we do in this situation? You're performing strange military activities near our borders and we should sit and relax? You force us to do the same in response instead of doing something really important for Russian people and economy.
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And what you propose? What should we do in this situation? You're performing strange military activities near our borders and we should sit and relax? You force us to do the same in response instead of doing something really important for Russian people and economy.
What are we doing that is so threatening?
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Would you also agree that there are also Kremlin hawks? I mean, there is no reason for the US to go to war with Russia. Russia isn't a threat militarily anymore, and the only reason we are still bickering is because Russia continues to meddle in the affairs of former Soviet territories (Baltics)
Kremlin hawks? Hmm, give some example of hawkish speech from Kremlin concerning the appeals to the wars and foreign aggressions so oft for Rummy's Pentagon and experts-counceillors of the Department of State. All the ambitious men with strong ego in Russia today are busy with ressurection of our economy and social standards. Slogans for foreign interventions and Crusades would be freaky decadance, the people will not accept them serious, so nobody plunge to them - as it is, zero outcome guaranteed.
Baltic countries are our neighbours, the great deal of their population are either Russians, or associate themselves with Russia or Russian civilization for at least 1000 years. These countries are members of NATO today and for the most part members of EU, they have big role as transit routes Russia-EU. What do you mean when say we meddle in their affairs? Yes, our big market affect and attract them, they watch our TV-channels. What you have said is just and applicable to the US themselves, as it concerns any neighbour of the US - Mexico for instance. The words to the US "don't meddle in the affairs of Mexico" would sound laughable on the background of direct military occupation of countries located in thousands miles from your borders.
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What are we doing that is so threatening?
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What are you doing that is so threatening? Moving radar stations closer to our borders, saing strange words as Robert Gates, isn't it threating? And the aim of all that, i think, is to weaken Russian economy by means of a new little cold war. I do apollogise, it's 11.30pm here and I want to sleep. I really enjoyed talking with you. All the best and see you later

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What are we doing that is so threatening?
Your lying is threatening. What would you consider if Russia were setting the rockets-interceptors on Cuba with explanations that they are intended against North Corea nuclear terrorism? What would you say when you'd learn those rockets can bear the nuclear warheads after insignificant reassembling?
Insolent lies is the worst threat, because they imply the perfidious strike.
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I wouldn't view defensive weaponry as threatning. Unless there would be some
"LeMay" in office who would belive in First Strike with nuclear weapons..
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Re: Russia in the future

Looks like Russia is not the only country who feels threatened:

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Concern about Russia appears to be growing in Sweden, leading to increased behind-the-scenes debate on the country’s security policy line.
On Wednesday, the head of the Analysis Centre of the Swedish Defence Forces said that a new assessment of the state of Russia is leading to fine-tuning of the focus toward domestic and regional defence.
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