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HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
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I'm surprised to see Human Rights Watch actually dealing with human rights issues instead of their usual biased political reports. Does this mean that if a girl is raped and the man "agrees" to marry her, she has to live with him too?! That just means that she will be raped by the same man her entire life!!! Unless she dishonors him in some way, then he can just kill her. What is it with Muslims and women's rights? Seriously, what is this honor killing business? Does it come from the Koran or is this just part of their culture? |
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Re: HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
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Honor killing is primarily a cultural tradition, but the Qur'an does give it some support.
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She just needs to get a Gun, blow these bastards away and blame Hamas! When you shoot em, just wound them and allow a long time of suffering before you put one in their balls, and finish them!!
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Re: HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
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The problem with this issue, like many others in the Middle East and Islam, is that any criticism is viewed as an attempt to interfere, subvert and destroy their way of life. The criticism is then used as one of the reasons for declaring the critic, and the west in general, an enemy which must be destroyed.
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Re: HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
>There is nothing honorable in "honor" killings. It's just sick. I don't understand any of it.
According to the statistics there are about 1000 times / person more killings in USA than in the muslim coutries. Are these honor killings or just killings? Tell then what is your position to teach other cultures in the world. Of course all the killings are criminal - but in some countries the government is supporting the killing... like in USA. |
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Re: HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
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can you quote the Surah where the Quran supports honour killing? |
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The thing is there are a lot of problems with Islam - especially for women. I didn't mind my daughter being in such a culture when she was pre pubescent, but I certainly didn't want her there as a teenager - but lets stop with all this bullshit. Its not about Islam, its about traditional patriarchal societies. As to the violence against women - have you seen any statistics on domestic violence in Israel, for example .... I did several years ago, and there were concerns among women groups then because violence against women was increasing. This is not at all unusual in circumstances where the men in a community are placed under extreme stress. WRT the Palestinian situation - are you aware that over 80% of users of public mental health services in Jordan are Palestinians? Strangely enough this is not uncommon among refugees. Nor is an increase in violence against women uncommon among men who feel displaced and as if they have lost their whole definition of manhood. In Arab societies men are still supposed to support their families. This is pretty much impossible in Palestine, which is an economic disaster - a situation which has worsened since the election of Hamas - due to the activities of the outside world - not due to mismanagement on the part of Hamas. It is not all that unusual for men to lash out at those closest to them when they lose their jobs in OUR society - the situation in Palestine is far, far worse. BTW - I don't condone violence against women in any shape or form - but its all very well tut tutting about how bad people are without looking at what factors contribute to that. I have lived among Muslim people - and my perception is that violence against women is no more common than in our society. Mothers are far more respected in Islam than they are in our world. |
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1000 times more killings per person in the US? Could you please provide us with a source for that interesting statistic. |
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Re: HRW: Palestinian violence against women & girls must stop
Down with bullies everywhere. Israel in particular.
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