One Year On;





If ' The Nation' had decided in June that the accusations made against this unit of the 1st Marine Regiment are true, why is it that we have reached the first anniversary of the event without hearing the findings of the investigating body, which we are told has completed its investigations ?

One year on. You'd think that that was comment enough for such a grave charge.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

A 'disabled father of 11'. Nice.

Perhaps they're delaying an announcement on Haditha until after the withdrawal.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

We do know one thing ... that Murtha's accusations were wrong!!!

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The final report of the investigation was made in August, supposedly the matter has been handed over to military prosecutors to decide what kind of a case can be made and what charges will be filed.

I can see where the timing of this is inconvenient, trying to file charges against Marines for massacring civilians at the same time as the verdict for Saddam Hussein for massacring civilians is being appealed.

I'd say that puts the pressure on the prosecution to seek the death penalty.

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Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R)
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“I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.”
Senator Pete Domenici, New Mexico (R)
on McCain

“My anger did not help my campaign ... People don’t like angry candidates very much.”

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You may see charges brought in the not-so-distant future, Moon. Probably in the early part of 2007, from what I've gleaned in my readings and news searches.
Personally I think they've been holding off to keep "We, the People" from dissolving into a 60's style uproar. One thing is for certain- the lack of any formal charges being made didn't help the Republican Party any in the last election!
The times, they are a'changin and the writin's on the wall!

Gem

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I hope so.

It appears that the charges are so grave, so damaging to the military and the administration which sent them, that 'guilty' verdicts, along with the detail of the alleged crimes which will be generated , could contribute significantly to a withdrawal from Iraq.

Certainly, any achievements that have been made could be eradicated by this.

I guess that somebody wants to put some distance between the wanton slaughter of unarmed men, women and children and the recent 'guilty' verdicts on the child rape and murder cases. There was, after all, quite a gap between the child rape and murder cases and the horrendous torture verdicts.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Guess again, Jotathought.

About 6 to be charged in Haditha deaths - Yahoo! News

Looks like Senator Murtha was right, along with the vast majority of us leftist Liberals.
Know what us longhairs of the sixties used to say about our long hair? We said that long hair was indeed dangerous to America. You could hide things under it- like brains and other weapons of mass deduction. How is it that so many of "The Right" could be so wrong? Especially about soooo many things?

And to think that Frank Wuterich actually had the audacity to sue Sen. Murtha for defamation of character! Pathetic. Just disgustingly pathetic.
It's not the liberals that are demoralizing our troops in Iraq. It's their fellow soldiers that are going to demoralize them!

Gem

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"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

this did not demoralize the troops

piss off

anger

disgust

but not demoralize, in a city of 150K there are may murders and there are many rapes

atleast in the military we police our own can you say that for you city>?

Sure can, Rakkasan. Up here in Los Alamos you can leave your keys and a few thousand dollars worth of jewelry in your unlocked car with the keys in the ignition and leave the door to your house unlocked all night with your wife laying naked and asleep in bed.
How does that compare to where you live, Rakkasan?

Mass murders of Iraqi civilians by members of our military. The rape and murder of a fourteen year old girl and the murder of her family by members of our military. The abducting and murder of an old man and making it look like he was an insurgent planting a roadside bomb by members of our military. The humiliations, rapes, assaults, torture and murder of Iraqi men and women by members of our military and CIA intelligence officers.
Now what was that you were saying about how in the military you are policing your own? Seems to me the military has a ways to go to achieve that goal.

Gem

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"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

Rakkasan;
By the accounts I've read the incident was buried by the military. Why do you think everybody is howling ?

This crime is far more serious than individual murder/rape, rakkasan.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Name me one war, in the history of mankind, in which there weren't some individual incidents of inappropriate conduct. And I, too, was a long hair in the 60's that didn't support the war in Vietnam. The difference between us is that I had respect for the soldiers being shot at daily and you only saw them as pawns in your anti-war propaganda machines.
Calling American soldiers baby killers, etc., didn't help your cause but it sure does undermine our soldiers' ability to do their job. Every negative generalization about American soldiers' conduct is used as a recruiting tool to lure more wannabee martyrs into terrorist organizations.
I think that individuals that break the military code of conduct should be disciplined, but not made into propaganda for anti-war and pro-terrorist recruitment.

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

Is it more serious than blowing up 100's Iraqi civilians weekly as the terrorists do? Try a little perspective for a change.

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

Why do I have trouble believing in that.

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jpsartre;
Of course it is. If you're a halfway decent American .

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

If that's true, then why haven't you condemned the terrorists blowing up civilians daily?
You rail against a few isolated incidents involving US soldiers, but you neglect to say anything about the victims of IEDs and suicide bombers. Where's YOUR objectivity since you claim that we don't have any.

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution