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Old 12-24-2006
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Gore Vidal: I am Jealous of Cuba

What clever people in America think about Cuba is different then what G.W. Bush and his gun mentality corporate retards tell to brainwashed American people
This is an Interview with well known American intellectual Gore Vidal

http://www.informationclearinghouse...rticle15978.htm

By Rosa Miriam Elizalde

12/21/06 \"Counterpunch\" — -- Havana.

Gore Vidal was in Cuba for five days, following a frantic and packed program that took him from the University of Computer Sciences, the Latin American School of Medicine, the University of Havana's main campus, to the National Ballet School, from Old Havana to the park in honor of John Lennon where a bronze replica of the lead Beatle is found, seated as if he were a nearby neighbor.

For the brief span of an hour, Gore Vidal agreed to chat with us for this interview. He is the most erudite American writer of his generation and the most corrosive critic of the present Republican administration. But Vidal does not simply speak to us. He interprets what he says. Modulating his voice, he brings to life George W. Bush, Eisenhower, FDR, an obscure Pentagon bureaucrat, and even himself, mocking all of them with the irony contained in a visage that belies his 81 years of age.

He is more interested in being remembered as an historian than as a novelist. Although his works easily triple his age (we can find in his bibliography novels, tragedies, comedies, memoirs, essays, film and television screenplays), he has a singular obsession: the loss of the Republic. \"The main bit of wisdom that I learned from Thomas Jefferson, and he from Montesquieu, is that we cannot maintain both a Republic and an Empire simultaneously. We have been rapacious imperialists since the Mexican War in 1846.\"

The Birth of an Empire

RM: In Inventing a Nation: Washington, Adams and Jefferson, you talked about the first imperialist war in modern history, with the intervention of the United States in Cuba. Was the island the desired treasure?

GV: American imperialist history started long before. It was inevitable that the original English settlers, not to mention the Dutch and the French who occupied the eastern seaboard of the US, would look west where there was more wealth. It's curious that the only American president that liked democracy, Thomas Jefferson, was the first to push the limits of the Constitution. We have to recognize that our founding fathers hated democracy and they hated tyranny so they made sure we wouldn't have a Hitler and we wouldn't have chaos, which is how they thought the Athens of Pericles was. Ironically the third president, Thomas Jefferson, who gave us our identity in the declaration of independence, had recourse to weapons. He not simply told us that all men are created equal, but that they have inalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No government had ever said that before. So we began in a rather special place, it didn't last long thanks to Jefferson, he bought up that which is now 20 States and made the famous Louisiana purchase. Millions of people were added to the US because of the vast amount of land that he bought, rather illegally. And so, we just aimed west and inevitably we were going to turn imperial against our neighbors. The first of our neighbors that we attacked was Mexico in 1846 en route to what we really wanted which was California and that was at the time of President James Polk.

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Old 12-24-2006
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Re: Gore Vidal: I am Jealous of Cuba

i think cuba should invade florida and teach the imperialists a thing or two.
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Old 12-25-2006
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Re: Gore Vidal: I am Jealous of Cuba

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i think cuba should invade florida and teach the imperialists a thing or two.


Sorry I have to correct.
Cuba should LIBERATE Florida and then reeducate them.
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reeducate, brainwash whatever sounds good to me! Hey me and my gun slinging corporate retard friends are gonna have a new years eve party do you want to come?
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Old 12-26-2006
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Re: Gore Vidal: I am Jealous of Cuba

People who have the word Gore in their names tend to be jackasses. Except for that runningback for the Niners.
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Re: Gore Vidal: I am Jealous of Cuba

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Sorry I have to correct.
Cuba should LIBERATE Florida and then reeducate them.
Anytime you want to give it a shot...
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Old 01-05-2007
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yes well when you aren't a resident its easy for a dilettante like Gore to go and find everything rosey as he sees what they want him to see…..please....if gore thinks it paradise, then he should take up residence……...he and alec baldwin.....and Eleanor Clift …
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