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Re: Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

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Ridiculous! Show me the Richness, which i earn by multi-cultural contacts?

Name me any advantages, which i got by mass-immigration!
Do you mean´this ones?
1. crime
2. poorness
3. unemployment
4. financial desaster by social transfers

Nobody needs 15 Mio. immigrants, only in germany, to get contact to some innovations of culture, science or something else. The best example is japan, where are lieving no foreigners, and which is one of the modernest states in the world.
The only one, which profit by Immigration is the capital.

By the way, you must learn the history of facism. The parties which i enumerated are not fascist.
Interesting .... so if all this can be accounted for by multiculturalism ... why is the Australian economy doing so well at present?

I'm suspecting that there are other causes for the social and economic ills you refer to (and I have certainly read about various causes over the last couple of decades ... in your country in particular), and it is your own blinkered approach that leads you to conclude that multiculturalism is the cause.

Not to mention that the big clash of the future in western societies won't be race or religion ... but related to age group economic inequities (eg struggling overworked gen Y vs wealthy aging baby boomers). Immigration may be the best chance of minimizing this clash.
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Interesting .... so if all this can be accounted for by multiculturalism ... why is the Australian economy doing so well at present?
While the economy may be doing well multiculturalism has wreaked havoc in Australia; look at the results of diversity...

1) Ashfield Gang Rapes
2) Sydney Gang Rapes
3) Systemic campaign of harassment and abuse of Australian women at Sydney and suburb beaches
4) 2005 Cronulla Uprising
5) Rigid hate crime laws meant to keep multiculturalism from collapsing
6) African gang violence
7) Racism
8) 47% unemployment rate in the Lebanese Muslim Community (The Age)

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Not to mention that the big clash of the future in western societies won't be race or religion ... but related to age group economic inequities (eg struggling overworked gen Y vs wealthy aging baby boomers). Immigration may be the best chance of minimizing this clash.
The 2005 Cronulla Uprising was certainly not an economic clash.

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MarcoPolo, in all honesty I think you are having a bit of a kneejerk reaction because its Islam - a lot of people do.
Islam itself is not a bad religion; it is certainly more Jesus friendly then lets say the Babylonian Talmud. However, Islamic and western values are not compatible! You will find Islamic leaders even ones in Australia will concede the point that Islam and democracy are indeed incompatible...

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War on Ignorance has a far more realistic understanding of the situation. Given the right opportunities, the second generation generally fits in well with the host society
This is an assumption based ideological wishful thinking; even after being in Australia for decades according to 'The Age' Lebanese Muslims are still holding a 47% unemployment rate while Lebanese Christians are doing better yet are still below the national white average.

As well there is no evidence to suggest that non-European minorities from the third world assimilate nearly as well (or at all) as European migrants do by the second generation in fact historical evidence from the United States (for example) would indicate the opposite. The Irish were once a persecuted minority yet they have no assimilated quite nicely while blacks and Meztiso hispanics cannot say the same.

As far as WOI having a better grasp of the situation? That is laughable. He is motivated by ideology and ignores reality; many Europeans are just like him and what has been the result? Riots in France, Horrible third world rapes rates in Norway, legions of rape victims in Denmark by third world criminals. Sorry Daisym but people like WOI are a part of the problem not the solution.

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Hey, Frankie, you missed these riots:
The Sun Online - Football: Italian cop killed as fans riot
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ALL football in Italy has been cancelled indefinitely after a policeman was killed during riots on Friday night.
Perfect for you, there was even a cop killed.

Oh wait, the culprits have the wrong skin colour. Let's ignore these riots and continue to pretend that all Evil comes from immigrants.
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Frank, with all due respect - that's Sydney for you
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Hey, Frankie, you missed these riots:
The Sun Online - Football: Italian cop killed as fans riot

Perfect for you, there was even a cop killed.

Oh wait, the culprits have the wrong skin colour. Let's ignore these riots and continue to pretend that all Evil comes from immigrants.
Here is the difference; Europe HAS to deal with its own criminals but they do not have to deal with immigrant criminals. When statistics illustrate that certain immigrant population groups are prone to criminal or antisocial behaviour a nation can solve the problem by keeping them out!

This does not mean that nations will be free of crime but they can certainly help curb crime by keeping out dangerous foreign groups with a proven predisposition to such problems.
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Frank, with all due respect - that's Sydney for you
You would likely be amazed at how things would improve after issuing and enforcing some deportation orders.
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Re: Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

in this country, we are more suspicious of muslims coming in from arab lands, with good reason. but we still let some in. and not due to political correctness. as a result, we get the best muslims, the ones with higher education. in fact percentage wise muslims in america hold more advanced degrees then any other ethnic/religious group here. and you silly europeans with all your PC rules get all the shitty muslims.

of course, i am sure that if muslims came here and started marching in the streets about the evil american empire, and islam the only true religion, shariah law must be implimented, jews are the enemy,... they would probably get the shit kicked out of them, and i would be one of the ones with a base ball bat doing some serious damage. screw radical islam.
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of course, i am sure that if muslims came here and started marching in the streets about the evil american empire, and islam the only true religion, shariah law must be implimented, jews are the enemy,... they would probably get the shit kicked out of them, and i would be one of the ones with a base ball bat doing some serious damage. screw radical islam.
Not necessarily...

WorldNetDaily: U.S. Muslims desecrate American flag

Here is a video from NEFA:

YouTube - Islamist Pro Suicide Bombing Rally in NYC
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a small group of cowards are doing shit in alittle street corner people dont even know what they are doing. Let them wave signs like they do in europe. i would be sooo disapointed in americans if they actually were an announced rally in the middle of a street. a gathering of muslims.. i would be sooo disapointed in us if any of them escaped uninjured. you are talking about groups of about ten here...
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it still pissed me off that no one clocked that guy tho... if i saw em, i woulda grabbed a broken bottle on the road and bashed his head in. racist pig.
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i would be one of the ones with a base ball bat doing some serious damage

i would be sooo disapointed in us if any of them escaped uninjured.

if i saw em, i woulda grabbed a broken bottle on the road and bashed his head in. racist pig.
I think it's high time that somebody separated you from your video games.
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You would likely be amazed at how things would improve after issuing and enforcing some deportation orders.
Probably not Frank, this is the born in Australia generation.
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I think it's high time that somebody separated you from your video games.
Hey there's big game points at stake!!
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Lol. The boundaries between realities are fogging. Back into the Tardis, quick !
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not video games to me, serious reason to intimidate the fuckers. i dont want them making any rounds in any cities, i want thier ideology destroyed. this is not about me wanting to prove my masculinity or win points, this is what i want. i want radical islam chased out of europe and america permenantly. i see no reason for it to exist. and i see no reason why we should tolerate it. if we start sending out lynchmobs against imams who say 'kill all the jews.' so be it.
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