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Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

A very tragic and frightening article! The UK may be in for some very rough times ahead...

Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Telegraph | News | Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

A bleak picture of a generation of young British Muslims radicalised by anti-Western views and misplaced multicultural policies is shown in a survey published today.

The study found disturbing evidence of young Muslims adopting more fundamentalist beliefs on key social and political issues than their parents or grandparents.

Forty per cent of Muslims between the ages of 16 and 24 said they would prefer to live under sharia law in Britain, a legal system based on the teachings of the Koran. The figure among over-55s, in contrast, was only 17 per cent.

In some countries, people found guilty under sharia law face penalties such as beheading, stoning, the severing of a hand or being lashed.
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A very tragic and frightening article! The UK may be in for some very rough times ahead...

Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Telegraph | News | Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

A bleak picture of a generation of young British Muslims radicalised by anti-Western views and misplaced multicultural policies is shown in a survey published today.

The study found disturbing evidence of young Muslims adopting more fundamentalist beliefs on key social and political issues than their parents or grandparents.

Forty per cent of Muslims between the ages of 16 and 24 said they would prefer to live under sharia law in Britain, a legal system based on the teachings of the Koran. The figure among over-55s, in contrast, was only 17 per cent.

In some countries, people found guilty under sharia law face penalties such as beheading, stoning, the severing of a hand or being lashed.

Grim times, no doubt.
I have two opinions on this;

Muslims are culturally untouchable in modern Britain. The first word of criticism has loons out on the streets burning flags and threatening to crush the West. Add to a supremely arrogant (white) politically correct elite, whose current minority of choice just happens to be Muslims (I can never figure out why the atheist, self-indulgent moralisers of the left ignore extremist religious doctrines such as Sharia law, but that's modern liberals for you) and you have a problem. The persecution complex that many Muslims seem to have is out of control.
We are always hearing how 'moderate' Muslims condemn such extremism, but in practice this rarely happens.
On the other hand, you have the hedonism of modern Britain. Drunken yobs, vomit-spattered streets, shambolic education and health sytems, feckless disregard for courtesy, tolerance or community, etc, etc. Need i go on?
The Britain proposed by Sixties liberals and carefully crafted by every Government since is enough to make anyone turn extreme.
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It is the same in germany, france, holland and in scandinavia. Eurabia must get up soon or it will be too late. the old conflicts in europe must end. the danger for the future is the islamic immigration
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How cute, our own little Stormfront.
What's up guys, did your girlfriends prefer a guy called Mohammed ?
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How cute, our own little Stormfront.
What's up guys, did your girlfriends prefer a guy called Mohammed ?
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak up (or in this case post) and remove all doubt. Please take this advice to heart...
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It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak up (or in this case post) and remove all doubt. Please take this advice to heart...
Wassup, Frankie ? Don't want intruders in your little Berchtesgaden ?
All opposition should be banned like on Stormfront ?
Why are you so scared of Muslims anyway ? Maybe you could get help ?
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A very tragic and frightening article! The UK may be in for some very rough times ahead...

Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Telegraph | News | Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

A bleak picture of a generation of young British Muslims radicalised by anti-Western views and misplaced multicultural policies is shown in a survey published today.

The study found disturbing evidence of young Muslims adopting more fundamentalist beliefs on key social and political issues than their parents or grandparents.

Forty per cent of Muslims between the ages of 16 and 24 said they would prefer to live under sharia law in Britain, a legal system based on the teachings of the Koran. The figure among over-55s, in contrast, was only 17 per cent.

In some countries, people found guilty under sharia law face penalties such as beheading, stoning, the severing of a hand or being lashed.
My level of being disturbed would depend on what these forty percent understood "sharia law" to be. Different countries use different versions.
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Why are you so scared of Muslims anyway ?
I am not personally but the people of the UK would seem to have reason to fear the rather large radical minority within that population!

- 75% of young Muslims between 16-24 would prefer Muslim women to "choose to wear the veil or hijab"

- 70% of minority prisoners in the UK are Muslim.

- 58% of UK Muslims believe that many of the world's problems are "a result of arrogant Western attitudes".

- 56% of UK Muslims understand why radical Muslims would launch bombing terrorist attacks such as those launched in London on 7/7

- 50% of UK Muslims would consider becoming suicide bombers if they lived in Palestine

- 40% of UK Muslims between the ages of 16-24 would prefer to live under 'Sharia Law' in the United Kingdom as a whole (Most recent poll) 'In some countries, people found guilty under sharia law face penalties such as beheading, stoning, the severing of a hand or being lashed.'

- 40% of UK Muslims (no age specifications/stated divisions) polled want Sharia Law implemented in “predominantly Muslim” areas of Britain (Older Poll)

- 40% of younger Muslims said they would want their children to attend an Islamic school

- 36% of the young UK Muslims questioned said they believed that a Muslim who converts to another religion should be "punished by death."


- 32% of UK Muslims view western culture as decadent and believe it should be destroyed. 1% would be willing to use violence to accomplish this goal; this translates into approximately 16,000 people willing to use violence to destroy western culture.

- 26% of UK Muslims were reluctant to dismiss the beliefs of the London 7/7 bombers as "perverted and poisonous"

- 24% of UK Muslims sympathized with the feelings and motives of the 7/7 bombers

- 13% of UK Muslims believe the 7/7 bombers should be regarded as Martyrs; ’With a Muslim population in Britain estimated at 1.6 million, this means that some 208,000 British Muslims regard these killers with what can only be described as a worshipful attitude.’

- 13% of UK Muslims believe that Al-Qaeda attacks on the United States are justified

- 12% of young UK Muslims admire groups like Al-Qaeda and would be willing to fight the west.

- 15% (On top of the above 13%) of UK Muslims did not know whether such Al-Qaeda attacks on the United States were right or wrong

- 19% of UK Muslims (age 55+) questioned said they believed that a Muslim who converts to another religion should be "punished by death."

- 6% of UK Muslims believe that the 7/7 bombings were entirely justified; ’Six per cent may seem a small proportion but in absolute numbers it amounts to about 100,000 individuals who, if not prepared to carry out terrorist acts, are ready to support those who do.’

- 10% of UK Muslims feel no loyalty to the United Kingdom; ’If these findings are accurate, and they probably are, well over 100,000 British Muslims feel no loyalty whatsoever’ towards the United Kingdom.

- 8% of UK Muslims feel little loyalty to the United Kingdom


- Scotland Yard estimates that 3,000 British-based Muslims have joined Al-Qaeda forces in Afghanistan


SOURCES:

1) 'Appeasing jihadists' - The Washington Times - By Diana West - July 7, 2006

2) One in eight UK Muslims 'support terrorist attacks' - The Scotsman - Mon 15 Mar 2004

3) 'Radical Islam finds unlikely haven in liberal Britain' - By Danna Harman Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor - From the August 05, 2002 edition

4) 'One In Four Muslims Sympathises With Motives of Terrorists' - Anthony King, Telegraph (London) - July 23, 2005

5) 'Poll Reveals 40pc of Muslims Want Sharia Law in UK' - Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite, Telegraph (London) - Feb. 19, 2006

6) Yougov.co.uk – November 2005

7) Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical' - UK Telegraph - January 29th, 2007

8) 'Our prisons are fertile ground for cultivating suicide bombers' - Times Online - July 30, 2005

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My level of being disturbed would depend on what these forty percent understood "sharia law" to be. Different countries use different versions.
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The study, by the Right-wing "think-tank" Policy Exchange
The outcome of the study surely predated the actual study.
Frankie's quoting the propaganda of his own ilk.
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Dilettante, hint :

The outcome of the study surely predated the actual study.
Frankie's quoting the propaganda of his own ilk.
A study being from a 'conservative' source does not invalidate it and that study is merely one of eight sources used. Unless you can illustrate some personal bias against Muslims from the group in question your circumstantial ad hominem attack is weak.
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Wassup, Frankie ? Don't want intruders in your little Berchtesgaden ?
All opposition should be banned like on Stormfront ?
Why are you so scared of Muslims anyway ? Maybe you could get help ?

Where are you from? Is it an northern ireland flag? War on ignorance, i will agree with you. War on the political correctness in the name of multi-culturalism (in german Multi-Kulti, which is more significant). Wake up, Europe! It is crunchtime. Our war will not been fight in iraq, afghanistan or north corea. Our war is beeing fight in the streets of europe. And our chances to win looks very bad.
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Where are you from? Is it an northern ireland flag? War on ignorance, i will agree with you. War on the political correctness in the name of multi-culturalism (in german Multi-Kulti, which is more significant). Wake up, Europe! It is crunchtime. Our war will not been fight in iraq, afghanistan or north corea. Our war is beeing fight in the streets of europe. And our chances to win looks very bad.
You should be careful my friend with what you post! The so called enlightened freedom loving state of Germany may toss you into a gulag for what you are posting here. Maybe you should check your nations thought-crime...er...Soviet...er...'hate crime' statutes before saying too much more my friend.

Isn't EU respect for free speech grand folks?
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You should be careful my friend with what you post! The so called enlightened freedom loving state of Germany may toss you into a gulag for what you are posting here. Maybe you should check your nations thought-crime...er...Soviet...er...'hate crime' statutes before saying too much more my friend.

Isn't EU respect for free speech grand folks?

You are right. But i cant do it an other way. There is a war on the streets, in which the white-population is been supressed by it own government. This ist the reason why right-wing Parties like the Vlaams Belang, NPD, Forza Nationale, Front national, Dansk Front, Nationaldemokraten (SVerige) or others grown up. Sagt dir das Wort Gewissen irgendetwas? Ich will mich nicht von meinen Kindern fragen lassen, was ich getan habe, als noch Zeit war.
(Í wont to be asked by my children, what if have done, when it have been time enough?)
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You are right. But i cant do it an other way. There is a war on the streets, in which the white-population is been supressed by it own government. This ist the reason why right-wing Parties like the Vlaams Belang, NPD, Forza Nationale, Front national, Dansk Front, Nationaldemokraten (SVerige) or others grown up. Sagt dir das Wort Gewissen irgendetwas? Ich will mich nicht von meinen Kindern fragen lassen, was ich getan habe, als noch Zeit war.
(Í wont to be asked by my children, what if have done, when it have been time enough?)
I feel bad for you folks in Europe the situation is certainly bad! However, many Europeans are beginning to wake up and take refuge in this fact! Just keep working with parties like the NPD and follow their lead; they will be worthwhile allies.
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I feel bad for you folks in Europe the situation is certainly bad! However, many Europeans are beginning to wake up and take refuge in this fact! Just keep working with parties like the NPD and follow their lead; they will be worthwhile allies.

You are right. The EU (european Community) and especially Germany are dictatures. If you say the truth, you will be arrested or got problems. But up to now the problems had been increased so much, that the truth cant be hide. In all countries, where muslims live, had start a war, begun by the muslims, which will be fight out. Der Kampf hat gerade erst begonnen!. In the future may be, we need some volunteers from th US.

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