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Suprise suprise a red chinese who doesn't think the Taiwanese government is good. I would laugh at the shere audacity of you complaining that Taiwan bans a television show if it weren't for all the hypocracy that statement evokes.
you suprise,but i don't surprise.Taiwan DPP government is busy clearing all Chinese culture in Taiwan society,i don't surprise,because since Lee Tunghui be the leader of Taiwan,Taiwan Government always do the same,such as let Mainland China super girl(singer) Li YuChun be mute girl,if she join the commercial event,then she against Taiwan law,she would be kicked out of Taiwan. ,see,what Taiwan Government did.

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you suprise,but i don't surprise.Taiwan DPP government is busy clearing all Chinese culture in Taiwan society,i don't surprise,because since Lee Tunghui be the leader of Taiwan,Taiwan Government always do the same,such as let Mainland China super girl(singer) Li YuChun be mute girl,if she join the commercial event,then she against Taiwan law,she would be kicked out of Taiwan. ,see,what Taiwan Government did.

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You just don't get the rather perverted humor in someone from the mainland complaining about taiwanese censorship do you? Frankly that doesn't suprise me much.
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Yes, immediately after the spanish american war.
If American government has never recognized Cuba as an independent country ever since America stopped directly ruling Cuba, of course, you can maintain your claim and start a war in Cuba against seperations as you did in Pig Bay.

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the little bit of International Law which deals with this matter would recognize Taiwan as an independent country. Overt Foreign recognition, or even foreign recognition is not a requirement for sovereignty.
If you think all international organizations have violated the international law by excluding Taiwan, you can sue all international organizations.

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Yes and that is also not true. The ROC doesn't control China, China doesn't control Taiwan, they are separate nations, hell Canada could pass a law tomorrow that Mexico is part of Canada and it wouldn't make it so.
ROC in Taiwan and PRC in mainland China are in war status. Who knows what ROC will control tomorrow. They might be able to conquer mainland China.

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But they never signed a peace treaty until just recently in the 20th century. So by your idea, that a peace treaty is absolutely necessary for a state of peace, is clearly incorrect, otherwise Sparta and Athens would have still been at war until sometime in the 90s.
A peace treaty between Athens and Spartans in the 20th century?? Are you trying to fool me?

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Except if states enter into a de facto peace, which we can describe as the absence of war, whether or not they formally signed a peace of paper is irrelevant, they are at peace.
Truce contracts are needed to end war status. Peace treaty implies no future wars, while truce contract only stops the present war. North Korea is trying to get America in signing a peace treaty with them.

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War is defined by two nations fighting each other. There is no fighting, therefore there is no war. You might be able to argue there is a Cold War, which technically isn't a war.
Cold War is not actually a war. According to the Constitutions on both sides of Taiwan strait, we are still in war status. China used to be in war status with Japan for eight years, but for some periods of time, there was no fightings going on in mainland China.

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Because so many dictionaries describe war as a complete absence of fighting!
No active military operations, no campaigns, no force of arms, no fights, no battles, no casualties, then there is no war. South Korea and North Korea are still at war because they are still fighting.
China and Taiwan both have active military operations, war campaigns, forces of arms, just no direct fightings in this period of time. Both Koreas end war in 1953 truce contract.
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You just don't get the rather perverted humor in someone from the mainland complaining about taiwanese censorship do you? Frankly that doesn't suprise me much.
Even though Taiwan claims itself to be democratic government, there is still lost of censorship going on in Taiwan, not so much different from mainland China at this point.
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You just don't get the rather perverted humor in someone from the mainland complaining about taiwanese censorship do you? Frankly that doesn't suprise me much.
censorship?you have readed the story about Li Yuchun,not only Mainland has censorship,but Taiwan has censorship too.i just wounder why ordinary Taiwan people could visit Mainland,but ordinary Mainland people couldn't visit Taiwan.Taiwan green DPP Government said all visiters from Mainland are spy
too bad i don't read "People diary" and other Government diary and weekly,
I read "Phoenix weekly","South weekly",""Southern city diary",they are not Government diary,they are private and commercial diary,and i glad to see many people criticize the current corrupt local governments and systems in them.sometimes I watch CCTV,but i just watch some TV programes about law,commercial,society,amusement,but not news.I don't like watch Hong Kong TVB and ATV,because i don't like speak Cantonese,i just watch TVB or ATV TV news,not other TV shows.I watch Hong Kong Phoenix TV frequently,because its programe is Mandarin

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If American government has never recognized Cuba as an independent country ever since America stopped directly ruling Cuba, of course, you can maintain your claim and start a war in Cuba against seperations as you did in Pig Bay.


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If you think all international organizations have violated the international law by excluding Taiwan, you can sue all international organizations.
International Organizations changed the name on a piece of paper, China fired missiles. When it all comes down to it, rhetoric is hollow, actions mean everything.

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ROC in Taiwan and PRC in mainland China are in war status. Who knows what ROC will control tomorrow. They might be able to conquer mainland China.
Yeah, except for the fact that there hasn't been a single hostile action since the 90s, and even that was an abortive action. You're at peace, if you weren't at peace B-2 bombers would be flying over China as we speak. Since their not, since Taiwan isn't threatened, and since their have been no casualties suffice it to say, you're at peace.

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A peace treaty between Athens and Spartans in the 20th century?? Are you trying to fool me?
It was on the news in the 90s.

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Truce contracts are needed to end war status. Peace treaty implies no future wars, while truce contract only stops the present war. North Korea is trying to get America in signing a peace treaty with them.
No they want us to sign a non-aggression pact, which we have no reason to do.

Further, truces and peace treaties are not required to end wars as a number of wars have ended without them.

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Cold War is not actually a war. According to the Constitutions on both sides of Taiwan strait, we are still in war status.
The constitutions could say gravity makes things fall up, that doesn't make it so. Fact is, Taiwan and China have not fought military campaigns against each other for years, they have not engaged in armed conflict, they have not conquered territory of the other one. By any standard there is an absence of war, therefore PEACE.

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China used to be in war status with Japan for eight years, but for some periods of time, there was no fightings going on in mainland China.
The fact that the leaders of China were cowards hardly changes much. What can I say, Mao preferred killing his own.

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China and Taiwan both have active military operations, war campaigns, forces of arms, just no direct fightings in this period of time. Both Koreas end war in 1953 truce contract.
No they don't, active military operations would require Taiwanese Troops training for the imminent invasion of China, except they're not.
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[quote=Thematic-Device;915512International Organizations changed the name on a piece of paper, China fired missiles. When it all comes down to it, rhetoric is hollow, actions mean everything.[/QUOTE]

According to you, Constitutions on both sides of the Taiwan straits are hollow. You might find Newton's Laws and Maxwell Equations hollow. You should get a Nobel Prize for your bizarre originality.

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Yeah, except for the fact that there hasn't been a single hostile action since the 90s, and even that was an abortive action. You're at peace, if you weren't at peace B-2 bombers would be flying over China as we speak. Since their not, since Taiwan isn't threatened, and since their have been no casualties suffice it to say, you're at peace.
China shoot missiles to Taiwan in 1996 and lots of hostile military shows toward each other every year. If you think Taiwan is not threatened, I hope you can convince those politicians in Taiwan.

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It was on the news in the 90s.
My Greek labmate laughed at your BS.

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Further, truces and peace treaties are not required to end wars as a number of wars have ended without them.
Then they are still in war status as long as both sides of the war exist.

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The constitutions could say gravity makes things fall up, that doesn't make it so. Fact is, Taiwan and China have not fought military campaigns against each other for years, they have not engaged in armed conflict, they have not conquered territory of the other one. By any standard there is an absence of war, therefore PEACE.
Only American Constitutions could talk about gravity. The fact is both sides of the Taiwan strait are in civil war status.

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The fact that the leaders of China were cowards hardly changes much. What can I say, Mao preferred killing his own.
You finally said one thing corrent. Chinese like internal fightings, and we consider Taiwan as our own. Good for you.

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No they don't, active military operations would require Taiwanese Troops training for the imminent invasion of China, except they're not.
They are training day and night for that.
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According to you, Constitutions on both sides of the Taiwan straits are hollow. You might find Newton's Laws and Maxwell Equations hollow. You should get a Nobel Prize for your bizarre originality.
Newtons Law, deals with observations of reality, Chinese and Taiwanese statements are based on rhetoric which has no basis in reality.

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China shoot missiles to Taiwan in 1996 and lots of hostile military shows toward each other every year. If you think Taiwan is not threatened, I hope you can convince those politicians in Taiwan.
Thats not a war, the USSR and the US were convinced the other was going to attack, that didn't mean there was a war.

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My Greek labmate laughed at your BS.
And it was a joke back when the mayors finally 'decided to end the war'

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Then they are still in war status as long as both sides of the war exist.
No there at war when they are fighting. There hasn't been a conflict since when, the 50s? That means you're at peace.

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Only American Constitutions could talk about gravity. The fact is both sides of the Taiwan strait are in civil war status.
Then where is the war? There is no fighting, there is no conflict, no deaths, no overly hostile actions. South Korea has maintained an actual conflict with North Korea, with deaths, engagements, you know, a shooting war, and you think they are at peace. You then look at Taiwan where there are not military engagements and you think their at war, what is wrong with your world.

Congratulations, by the way, on reading this at a 5th grade level.

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They are training day and night for that.
They're training for the eventuality of some idiot CCP member deciding that he doesn't like the idea of keeping his position.
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Newtons Law, deals with observations of reality, Chinese and Taiwanese statements are based on rhetoric which has no basis in reality.
Thats not a war, the USSR and the US were convinced the other was going to attack, that didn't mean there was a war.
And it was a joke back when the mayors finally 'decided to end the war'
No there at war when they are fighting. There hasn't been a conflict since when, the 50s? That means you're at peace.
Then where is the war? There is no fighting, there is no conflict, no deaths, no overly hostile actions. South Korea has maintained an actual conflict with North Korea, with deaths, engagements, you know, a shooting war, and you think they are at peace. You then look at Taiwan where there are not military engagements and you think their at war, what is wrong with your world.Congratulations, by the way, on reading this at a 5th grade level.
They're training for the eventuality of some idiot CCP member deciding that he doesn't like the idea of keeping his position.
Civil War status, with no current fightings. The government in Taiwan island also use War Status as justifications for the censorships against mainland China, and vice versa. Constitutions on both sides are the fundamental laws governing cross strait status. How TD wants to interpret, just like how TD wants to interpret Taoism, has no values in legal, political or academic status regarding Taiwan problem.
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censorship?you have readed the story about Li Yuchun,not only Mainland has censorship,but Taiwan has censorship too.i just wounder why ordinary Taiwan people could visit Mainland,but ordinary Mainland people couldn't visit Taiwan.Taiwan green DPP Government said all visiters from Mainland are spy
too bad i don't read "People diary" and other Government diary and weekly,
I read "Phoenix weekly","South weekly",""Southern city diary",they are not Government diary,they are private and commercial diary,and i glad to see many people criticize the current corrupt local governments and systems in them.sometimes I watch CCTV,but i just watch some TV programes about law,commercial,society,amusement,but not news.I don't like watch Hong Kong TVB and ATV,because i don't like speak Cantonese,i just watch TVB or ATV TV news,not other TV shows.I watch Hong Kong Phoenix TV frequently,because its programe is Mandarin

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First of all you clearly do not get the concept of hypocracy. I never said Taiwan was perfect in their freedom of speach or movement, just that it is hypocritical of you to complain about it. Look up the word hypocrit.

You government allows your local papers to publish the names of those caught in scandal and corruption because right now it is in their interest, and they never get to close to the main CCP members in charge. Every so often they may throw out a sacraficial lamb from the heirarchy of the CCP, but that is rare, it is usually the stupid local party members that are the ones caught. If you think they operate in a vacum I have some swampland for you to buy with your new wealth.
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Civil War status, with no current fightings.
Which is a misnomer exactly like "War but with peace"

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The government in Taiwan island also use War Status as justifications for the censorships against mainland China, and vice versa. Constitutions on both sides are the fundamental laws governing cross strait status.
There are laws, and there is reality. Guess which one is important when they are in conflict?

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How TD wants to interpret, just like how TD wants to interpret Taoism, has no values in legal, political or academic status regarding Taiwan problem.
Where as you will view everything exactly like how the CCP told you to view it without any bit of individual thought.
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Which is a misnomer exactly like "War but with peace"
China had 8 years of war with Japan, but major fightings happened in the previous 3 and the last year. There are plenty of examples of war status with no current fightings. I guess your simple minded brain cannot comprehend.

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There are laws, and there is reality. Guess which one is important when they are in conflict?
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Where as you will view everything exactly like how the CCP told you to view it without any bit of individual thought
CCP explanations in general are much less intellectual than mine. I should join the PolitBuro
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