Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

Look, Carolyn Parrish, a former Liberal member of Parliament in Canada, was booted from the party after she called Bush a moron. What really bugs me is that my wonderful nation caved in and basically alienated her just because she spoke her mind. Yes, it is unprofessional to call someone a moron, but her comment wasn't made in a speech, is what caught on tape as an aside. Cheney didn't lose his job for telling someone in a gov't session to go "fuck themselves" and what about when Bush was running in 2000 and called that reporter from the New York Times an ass hole? . . .

Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere

Parrish did alot worse. I am not a fan of the Bush Administration by any means, but IMHO, Parrish's conduct was outrageous and offensive beyond diplomatic criticism of Bush into basic insults thrown liberally at the American people and juvenile antics railed at Bush. Her primary business as a run-of-the-mill MP for Mississauga was her local business, not tirades on America.

First, she got caught on recorder saying "Damn Americans, I hate the bastards." She tried to subsequently claim she meant the Bush Administration and not the American people and was given a pass on it in Canada. But Bush wasn't what she said, though--she said Americans. Her local constituents even reelected her after that.

After her relection, she then called supporters of the North American missile defence proposal "a coalition of the idiots", and there is no secret where that barb was aimed.

After Bush was re-elected, Parrish said that "America is completely out of touch with the rest of the free world" and said this was a result of Americans having suffered "extreme psychological damage" due to 9.11.

Then, she went on the CBS TV show, This Hour Has 22 Minutes, and stomped on a Bush doll and chanted voodoo on its head, where, she said, "it would do the least damage."

After that, she told Paul Martin he could "go to hell" if he and others wanted her to stop making similar comments and that she had no loyalty to the party. It was then--and only then--that she was expelled from the party.

This, to me, in this picture of her with the Bush doll, sums up how entirely immature and unacceptable her behaviour was:



The person who called Bush a 'moron,' though, was former PM Jean Chrétien's spokeswoman, Françoise Ducros, who resigned after making that comment in Prague.

Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

Look, Carolyn Parrish, a former Liberal member of Parliament in Canada, was booted from the party after she called Bush a moron. What really bugs me is that my wonderful nation caved in and basically alienated her just because she spoke her mind. Yes, it is unprofessional to call someone a moron, but her comment wasn't made in a speech, is what caught on tape as an aside. Cheney didn't lose his job for telling someone in a gov't session to go "fuck themselves" and what about when Bush was running in 2000 and called that reporter from the New York Times an ass hole?

The elephant in the room in every nation other than America is that the current U.S. president has no sense of the world, no curiosity. No real interest in debate, knowledge or listening. Left to his own devices, he wouldn't know who the leaders of other nations are unless it is briefed to him in advance, and people really have a problem with that. Especially after having Clinton around for 8 years. Yes, some of you hate everything Clinton, but he garnered respect around the world, and in so doing, America's light shined brighter because of it. He didn't need a history lesson before meeting other world leaders since he was curious enough as a person to know what was happening in other countries.

In just six years as President, Americans have somehow completely let themselves cave into allowing their government to spy on them without a court order and calling that the Patriot Act. It's confounding. Especially when you consider that no President has ever been denied from spying for instance. Decision like that are going to leave you open to criticism, so you just have to get used to it. As long as the President of the United States needs to be briefed as to whom the Prime Minister of Canada is and what party affiliation that guy has, he has every right to be called a moron in my book. It's not flattering to be sure, but sometimes the harsh truth isn't meant to be.