The Japanese ultra right wing fascism movement after WW2 is initiated, sponsored, encouraged and manipulated by American government.

Congratulations you found out what Americans have known for decades, after we won WWII we turned to the next threat and utilized what we could to face it. Now that you know this, you can enjoy some of the jokes in the movie Dr. Strangelove (1964).

Now you can drop the part about the US encouraging, initiating or sponsoring a thing. The US used assets that is all, in Japan's politics the US certainly had a hand, and it was to create a pacifist and democratic nation. Which we quite plainly succeeded at doing.

What assets? They rolled in the mud and therefore got covered in it themselves.

I've known about US links with post-war Nazis and Japanese war-criminals for decades too.

I'm fed up to the backteeth with this 'containment of communism' postulation. Get over it, you ended up doing things that were 100 times worse than what you were accusing others of! South-East Asia, the Middle-East, South America the blood is on US hands all over the world. The tragedy is that the American people have no idea what has been done in their name.

The torturers of Chile, Argentina, Panama, Turkey et al were trained in the US.

How dare you, TD make that disgusting statement. What about the children who lost their parents and ended up being adopted by their parents' torturers? How can you justify all that that entailed with such a banal and
inane piece of pathetic justification.

You should be ashamed of yourself if you have known for years about these unethical and immoral acts and have never spoken out against them.

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Virgil

yes, both Soviets and US used certain figures in Post WWII. The only problem is that the Russian government has refused to release the same information as the US government per the The Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group.

Two words for you: Kurt Waldheim. He was a former UN Secretary General with a Nazi war crime past. Now, why did Australia helped Mr. Waldheim as UN Sec General? Or shall we also talk about how Australia treats the aboriginals?

Rocket Scientists, Spy Networks, access to criminal groups, all the things you need to run a cold war. I'm no fan of the CIA, but this is hardly an action of theirs to complain about.

I'm complaining, long, loud and hard. People's livelihoods were destroyed not to mention their lives. The Cold War was one of the most unnecessary and evil "wars" this planet has ever endured. Nobody won it, everybody lost it.

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Where did I say that Australian governments were blameless regarding the wrongs committed during the Cold War? None of the questions to be answered when wanting to emigrate to Australia were "Have you even been a member of the Nazi Party". And many war-criminals were accepted into our society, as has been noted by recent events. On the other hand it would be found that it wasn't systemic in our immigration policies whereas the same can't be said for those immigrating into the US who were actively encouraged so as to foment fear against the USSR.



That's a very long leap from Cold War tactics to the treatment of indigenous peoples. Are you prepared to compare the massacres of Native Americans to those perpetrated upon Australian Aborigines? Neither country has clean hands. The only difference is that I'm prepared to acknowledge my country isn't perfect, can you do the same?

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Virgil

Americans are hardpressed to find places like Japan on a map, but you think we nevertheless know about our govt's foreign policy objectives and methods?


A thoroughly corrupt democracy, much like our own. Whoopty fucking doo!

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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

--Hunter S. Thompson

Go right ahead on the treatment of aboriginals, I'll be in it.

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whats the point in acknowledging our countries arnt perfect? this is plainly obvious. I only choose to live guilt free and be glad for the fact that i have more freedoms rights, and a higher standard of living then most people around the world. I also believe that we believe for better or worse in helping out mankind, and the freedom of everyone. communism feel apart, many countries that were under brutal soviet domination are now free societies, id say we won.

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pass it on.

Yes the Estonians now feel free to build a monument to the Estonian Waffen-SS. I find that disgusting, I can say that because I live in a relatively free society as well (although it could do better). Things just aren't as simple as you would have it.

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right but are the russians and chinese fall in guilt tripps about the millions they have slaughtered, and some how idiots glorify iraqi and palestinian insurgents as freedom fighters and ignore how many innocents they kill INTENTIONALLY. oh and say, well 'they have no choice.' is that not like the 'ends justify the means.' how are they any different then us? Answer: they are not, they are worse. so when we talk about the horrible american empire can we please put things into perspective?

Talk. about american involvement in south american drug wars.. and forget how many these druglords slaughter??? anyone remmeber pablo escobar and hundreds of mini civilwars between druglords....
remind us how bad we treat cuba, yet forget how brutal cuba is to its people, forget how many civil wars and revolutions it tried to incite in south america and africa.. capitalism bad.. what was russian soviet domination like, nazi domination, chinese, cuban, japanese, german, arab..... forget forget forget. right??

My dad worked with a guy who came here from china. He tells him, my children are so much different then chinese, they smile more and tell more jokes, more happy go lucky, if he went to china with his children, the chinese people would easily be able to tell that they were westeners.. he will never go back to china.. because he is afraid of the chinese government...Loves america i live guilt free.

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pass it on.

CCP propaganda has always been telling Chinese people about America's covert intimacy with Japanese fascists. Previously it is everywhere in Chinese media. This is the first time that I find further proof in English mainstream media that CCP is all telling truth about American conducts.

I personally am fine with each country doing covert conspiracies for their own interests. However, this post is mainly for those Americans who are too "pure" to believe the American secret agenda of cultural imperialism, and those who think America does have some "moral high ground" to criticize other countries over various issues. The fact is that America is as morally sick, if not more, as any of the other countries, especially in international affairs. For TD who are already familiar with American Evils, you can skip this thread.

By the way, it is a joke that America boasts that they created a Pacifist Japan. It is extremely childish and simple-minded for anybody to think that 60 years of control can change thousands of years of Shintoist culture and Sammurai blood.

About your comparison between American evils and Russian or Chinese evils. The big difference is that the America is mainly evil to other countries and other races in America, like Native Indians and Black slaves. Chinese people might become quite evil to each other to survive the fierce internal competition, but are generally fine with exotic foreigners. Russians might get a little bit in both. America bring disasters to all corners of the earth, but China do not interfere with others, and thus bad things from China only mainly happen in Chinese territory.

About your comment for the Chinese child, it is basically true, but it has nothing to do with your topic. China is much more populated than America and after thousands of years, the limited resources make Chinese compete from a very young age. Chinese children must suffer in order to be better than the other children. If they suffer more in childhood, they can suffer less afterwards. Chinese parents will definitely beat their children if they get too "free". This is due to thousands of years of cultural influence, as well as material resource limitations. You cannot blame the Chinese government for the fact that Chinese children suffer more than American children.