I had found subtitles slightly different from those reported by the article. I forgot to copy paste them :/. The german-speaking members of this forum could translate (please ).

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
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This whole outrage about the "disturbing" video is laughable. First of all, the trainer said "afro-americans", which is the current pc term for black people from the USA. Second, the blacks themselves play with the clishee of the evil black ghettoganster. Rappers earn literally billions with it. Third, the krautish accent of the german landser calling "Mosafukka" and the whole situation itsself turns the video into an advertising for the clishee of the militarist german speaking in whacky accent while fighting the entire rest of the world. We should be the ones feeling offended by the video, not the americans.

Interesting thoughts. Most if not all democratic us black people are rappers.

One could have thought that the current demand and offer might allow a few democratic us black ones to live well by selling what the democratic us market expects, without it being forcibly a clean reflection of reality.

As already told, this democratic german soldier only pull strings existing in democratic minds.

It's rather at the end of this video. The instructor tells the soldier to envision a situation where "Afro-Americans" in the Bronx were insulting his mother or something like that and he tells him to shout out "Motherfucker" while he shoots his rounds. Seems the video isn't online anymore. It's really not such a big deal. It's just an obviously retarded jerk talking trash. The funniest about it is, that he really uses the politically correct term of "Afro-Americans". Weird.

LOL, very true.

Now, it would've been a serious problem if he had said "You are in the Bronx. A black van is stopping in front of you. Three nappy headed hos are getting out and they are insulting your mother in the worst ways ... Act."

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The source of it probably lies in the reputation of the bronx as a hostile environment (worthy of Iraq combined with Vietnam) rather than in racism. Otherwise, the instructor would probably not have bothered talking about African-Americans.

The funniest thing is the color of the van. It's probably logical to the instructor: a car is the race of its owner, right? I'm sure that's why he mentioned the van's color.

All in all, it really sounds like the casual, semi-conscious racism of someone who doesn't use his brain too often. It's not as if he had said "you're in Afghanistan, a brown van stops in front of you, 3 sandniggers come out and start insulting your mother in the worst ways (despite the fact that you have done nothing to them and you have a loaded machine gun pointed at them)".

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
(Beckett)

Leaving all this "gansta" stuff aside, the DI was instructing his pupil to fire on unarmed civilians for the reason that they "are insulting your mother in the worst ways".

Again WTF?

Matt

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Walaroo perhaps before committing a knee jerk response you should actually know my position. You have just made yourself look stupid with this response.

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That is just military shit talk Matt. We do it too. I remember a running cadence we had that involved kids and a 240G. You can use you imagination as to where we went with that.....

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It doesn't look that bad. And that is the problem. Had the german used turks instead of african americans would it still seem not as bad? Perhaps had he used the term nappy headed you know whats it would been a little more troublesome to you eh? What if an American used a simular tactic using French or Germans as the target would we both know you would be screaming bloody murder.

I agree in the large picture this is pretty insignificant, but it refelcts what this person at least actually thinks. And the fact that there are those among you that think it isn't that bad or it is OK says a lot about you as well.

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It is obvious that what the instructor had in mind was the cultural cliché of the "black gangsta"; ie, someone dangerous; and he sets the situation in a reputedly dangerous place, the Bronx.
Your comparisons are bullshit. French and German civilians don't have a reputation of being particularly dangerous, in the USA (especially french people). Had it been young french arabs insulting his mother in the suburbs of Paris, then you'd have a worthy comparison (because the guy would think: "rioters" just like he thought "gangsters" with the three african-americans). And obviously I'd say this is a stupid comparison, but I'd understand that it reveals ignorance rather than racism or hatred.

And for your future posts, I ask you to stop assuming that you know what I would do or say. You don't know.

Indeed, it reflects what this person actually thinks. It shows that this person believes that most black people in the Bronx are dangerous criminals or borderline criminal. Guess what - that's a belief widely spread in Europe by movies such as "lethal weapon" and by the fact that the Bronx used to be a dangerous zone. So what? Does this mean he is racist? It's possible, but this video isn't conclusive. Does this mean he is anti-american? The video is not conclusive either. He can love the USA but (stupidly) believe that any white man entering the bronx nowadays is going to get killed or, if he is lucky, only robbed.


PS: What exactly does it say about me? Instead of writing "it says a lot", write what it says, if you're willing to take responsability for your writings. Second thing, I never wrote that it is "OK" and I don't think anyone else did; please name the person who did.

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
(Beckett)

It certainly says he is racist and the fact that you do not comdem it clearly indicates you are not sure he is wrong. It also tells me that while Europeans get all up in arms about the holocost and anyone who has the temerity to question it, they have much less of an issue when other aspects of racism come down the pike. This guys comments were racists pure and simple. They may have been subconsciously racist but does that really matter.

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I've already explained that it doesn't necessarily means that he is racist. I've also said that it is "not that bad", which means that it is at least slightly bad, and I've repeated several times that it was a stupid thing to do. But perhaps you forgot to read the posts to which you are replying - and instead you're just making up stuff.

You say that "I'm not sure he is wrong" when I've written several times that I think he is (I wrote that what he said proved his ignorance, I wrote that he probably didn't used his brain too often). But you apparantly don't need to know what I write to know what I think! Is that telepathy?
Regardless of how you get all that information, you should go on. Do not settle for calling me a racist! Also call me a nazi and an anti-american by the way. Proceed! Call me a commie, a terrorist, a two-headed giant evil dinosaur while you're at it. Why not?! You don't need any proof.


Sure, the one or perhaps two messages you've read in this thread are a representative sample of Europe. Anyway, I've already explained why it is doubtful that this guy is racist, but I can start again. I just hope you will read it this time.

Imagine an American instructor and an american soldier being trained. About one week before, they've been watching fox news: "young french muslims are setting Paris' suburbs on fire". They proceed to the training, and the instructor says: "You're in suburbs near Paris. Three arabs get off a van and start insulting your mother in the worst ways. (etc)."
Well, I wouldn't conclude that the american instructor is racist; otherwise he would have just said "three arabs" or "three frogs": no need for Paris. The truth is that, when he said that, he implied that they were rioters, that the situation was dangerous.
Whether it is for african-americans in the Bronx or arabs in parisian suburbs, the goal was to find a dangerous situation with targets to fire on in a hostile environment. In the acual case, the hostile environment was the Bronx, the targets were criminals; in the example I gave, the hostile environment is a parisian suburb and the targets are rioters.

Perhaps racism played a role in the choice of the situation, and perhaps not. Who knows? In both cases it reveals stupidity and ignorance, that's what we know for sure.

I just hope that this time you've read it, as I won't repeat that again.

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
(Beckett)

Whether racism is a factor or not, this soldier is being trained that the proper response to an unarmed civilian insulting your mother is to yell "motherfucker" while gunning him down with a machine gun.

Again, WTF?

Matt

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Again, Matt, I don't think he was being trained to do that. As I said before, racism aside, I believe this is simply military shit talking and in no way reflects this landser being trained to gun down unarmed civilians.

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There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush.

We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country.