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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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Why do you critisize Germans when you don't treat your black population much better at home.
If your intentions are honest try to acheive the same racial harmony as Cuba have. If we allowed Americans to ocypie us we would have the same discrimination of black people as you have in USA.
Cuba is an example of horrid human rights abuses. A place where just owning the wrong book can land you in prison for decades.

Your repeated claims of Cuban superiority are pathetic.

Make the swim, like so many of your countrymen do, and find real freedom. Breathe free air and live life without the heel of Castro's boot on your neck.

Quick, before Fidel wills you to his brother like the chattel he thinks you are.

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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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Cuba is an example of horrid human rights abuses. A place where just owning the wrong book can land you in prison for decades.

Your repeated claims of Cuban superiority are pathetic.

Make the swim, like so many of your countrymen do, and find real freedom. Breathe free air and live life without the heel of Castro's boot on your neck.
Yeah, what an improvement that would be.
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As the Clinton Administration's second term ended in 2000, evidence of its domestic human rights legacy was scant. The country made little progress in embracing international human rights standards at home. Most public officials remained either unaware of their human rights obligations or content to ignore them.

As in previous years, serious human rights violations were most apparent in the criminal justice system-including police brutality, discriminatory racial disparities in incarceration, abusive conditions of confinement, and state-sponsored executions, even of juvenile offenders and the mentally handicapped. But extensively documented human rights violations also included violations of workers' rights, discrimination against gay men and lesbians in the military, and the abuse of migrant child farmworkers.
Human Rights Watch World Report 2001: United States: Human Rights Developments
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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

Gee, Walaroo, are you really ignorant of Cuba's horrific human rights abuses - which make what you cited look utterly insignificant - or are you just hung up on bashing America?

When was the last time the US held a mass book burning of "counterrevolutionary" writings like the Universal Declaration of Human rights?

When was the last time a US librarian went to the gulag for having such a work on their shelf?

Oh, yeah, never.

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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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Gee, Walaroo, are you really ignorant of Cuba's horrific human rights abuses - which make what you cited look utterly insignificant - or are you just hung up on bashing America?

When was the last time the US held a mass book burning of "counterrevolutionary" writings like the Universal Declaration of Human rights?

When was the last time a US librarian went to the gulag for having such a work on their shelf?

Oh, yeah, never.

Matt

We are talking about racial discrimination in USA. As a moderator you are supposed to stick to the topic of your post. You, like your politicians, always change the subject when you hear unpleasant truth.
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We are talking about racial discrimination in USA. As a moderator you are supposed to stick to the topic of your post. You, like your politicians, always change the subject when you hear unpleasant truth.
I've yet to hear anything from you that resembles truth. Not remotely close.

I know you can't handle any discussion of the real situation in Cuba, but you introduced Cuba into this thread, so it's fair game.

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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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I cannot believe what I heard with my own ears. This man is a shame for all Germans. So - I beg your pardon, because I'm a German too. Please think about that in every country in the world are living some motherfuckers like this absolutely stupid kid.
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Why are you apologizing? You have no reason to.
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You shouldn't apologize simply because you are German. No, the only person who should have to apologize is the landser who said it.
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But I do so.
I think you are honorable. I understand why you want to apologize. You want everyone to know that this is not the majority German way of thinking. I want to apologize for my President. So I understand and I thank you for your humble apology on behalf of your country. I apologize too, on behalf of mine.
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Gee, Walaroo, are you really ignorant of Cuba's horrific human rights abuses - which make what you cited look utterly insignificant - or are you just hung up on bashing America?

When was the last time the US held a mass book burning of "counterrevolutionary" writings like the Universal Declaration of Human rights?

When was the last time a US librarian went to the gulag for having such a work on their shelf?

Oh, yeah, never.

Matt
You are talking about freedom of speech alone. Obviously the concept of a dictatorship is that there arent any - not exactly a big secret. Away from that (and the lack of democracy at the Cuban state level) I doubt that they are violating human rights more than the U.S. are.
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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

But what is the German Army doing in the Bronx?? HA HA

Why not tell the kid to imagine it's a van full of jobless Turks coming to gut him or something anyway? Trying to motivate the kid with "African American thugs coming to get you in the Bronx" makes as much sense as a US Army drill sergeant motivating a recruit with exhortations about whacking Brazilian street gangs coming after you in downton Rio...
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You are talking about freedom of speech alone. Obviously the concept of a dictatorship is that there arent any - not exactly a big secret. Away from that (and the lack of democracy at the Cuban state level) I doubt that they are violating human rights more than the U.S. are.
And I might add that the biggest violation of human rights on Cuba probably takes place in Guantanamo.
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I've yet to hear anything from you that resembles truth. Not remotely close.

I know you can't handle any discussion of the real situation in Cuba, but you introduced Cuba into this thread, so it's fair game.

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Wow.. I'm pretty sure a Cuban might know a little more about human rights in Cuba than you...
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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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I think you are honorable. I understand why you want to apologize. You want everyone to know that this is not the majority German way of thinking. I want to apologize for my President. So I understand and I thank you for your humble apology on behalf of your country. I apologize too, on behalf of mine.
You did not get the whole point of that conversation Sam. The issue was that it was only the individual resposnible for making the comments that needed to apologize, not the entire German nation nor did he need to apologize for the entire German nation. Everything with you is partisan and about Bush. This thread has nothing to do with Bush, and whats more what make you think you have any right to apologize for me or any other American. We are all capable of doing that ourselves if we feel sufficiently motivated by our own individual actions. You may apologize only for yourself.
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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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Gee, Walaroo, are you really ignorant of Cuba's horrific human rights abuses - which make what you cited look utterly insignificant - or are you just hung up on bashing America?

When was the last time the US held a mass book burning of "counterrevolutionary" writings like the Universal Declaration of Human rights?

When was the last time a US librarian went to the gulag for having such a work on their shelf?

Oh, yeah, never.

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Matt if you go back and look it is this same issue he talks about whenever he discusses the US. It is because as he admitted he has little actual knowledge of us and he saw this documentary on US prisons put out by ITV some time ago. One of the specific incidents he mentions repeatedly I know is a decade old since it involes Missouri prisoners in a Texas jail I was living in the St. Louis area at the time so I remember the news accounts. Moreover if it was that bad how did local news accounts even make it to television, would they not have covered this up.

No I repsect him because at least he admits he doesn't know that much about us and usually doens't talk much about the States. There are others on here that have even less knowledge than he does and still try to pass themselves off as knowing something about us. At least he doesn't, except on this on issue usually.
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Re: WTF? German soldier told to envision US blacks in training?

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And I might add that the biggest violation of human rights on Cuba probably takes place in Guantanamo.
If you think that, ask a few Cuban expatriates what happens in Cuba when you don't tow the party line, when you don't accept socialism. You get thrown in jail my friend, and that is a FACT
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