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new management censored
So management of news' companies in Europe or America do not censor news... Ok, i got it... You have opened my eyes!
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So management of news' companies in Europe or America do not censor news... Ok, i got it... You have opened my eyes!

"Seven journalists have resigned from Russian News Service after new management censored their reports about a Dissenters' March and a dispute with Estonia, among other things, several of the journalists said Friday."


That as Putin says "Russia style democracy".

Interestingly, how long these seven journalists will be alive .
I should not be surprised if they one day would be poisoned with polonium or killed "by chechens".
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Litvinenko was killed by US or Britain. Russia didn't have reasons to kill him.

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Ok, they have resigned according to their will, and they were not discharged. So, it will be no surprise, if they ask for an american citizenship as "dissidents".

And about murders of Litvinenko and Politkovskaya. No Russian citizens were killed. So nothing to worry about. Politkovskaya was a citizen of USA, Litvinenko - of Britain.
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"Europe News
Kasparov urges EU to stay firm in dealing with Putin regime"


Kasparov urges EU to stay firm in dealing with Putin regime - Europe
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Who is Kasparov?
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Head of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso warned Russia against attempting to bring misunderstandings between the members of the EU. According to his words, Russia, seems to be looking at certain members of the EU, such as Poland and the Baltic States, separately from the others. Barosso is of the opinion that Moscow shall understand , that Poland is entitled to defend its interests equally with France, Germany or Portugal.

Such comments were expressed after the Summit EU-Russia in Samara district, where the European leaders refused from retaining certain countries of the Eastern Europe involved in disputes with the Russian federation.

Approaches of the Russian Federation and the European Union towards the democracy have also been different on the forum, and the Prime Minister of Germany Angela Merkel criticised the authorities of Moscow for refusing certain demonstrations of protest. J. Barroso pointed out to the situation of human rights in Russia. „I cannot understand, why the country having such security structures cannot deal with the murders of journalists" -he said.

Geopolitika - Head of the European Commission invited Russia for not trying to divide the EU
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Barroso has a point...
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No one really wants to know the truth.

I do believe that America or its affiliated structures had much more reasons to kill Litvinenko and Politkovskaya, than Russia had.

95% of people in Russia never heard about Politkovskaya before she was murdered.
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I love the truth...
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I do believe that America or its affiliated structures had much more reasons to kill Litvinenko and Politkovskaya, than Russia had.
Wow, first time I hear this, evil USA will have something to do with the murders of journalists in Russia...

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Since when you have to be famous to be murdered?
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Wow, first time I hear this, evil USA will have something to do with the murders of journalists in Russia...
I don't see the reason for sarcasm. Russia did not have interests to kill Politkovskaya. As i told before, she wasn't famous in Russia.

And the west had much more interest in her death, especially that she was killed 2 days before the summit where Russia was forced to sign up Energetic Charter. Her death was used for pressure on Russia.

But Russia did not sign up that one-sided agreement, and that possibly saved lives of tens of journalists in Russia.

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Since when you have to be famous to be murdered?
Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe were loosing their popularity and got famous only after they died/murdered.
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MilleVanille... we are talking here about a JOURNALIST not about a POPSTAR!

She reported about a war that all Russia is ashamed of... The Chechen war, and it the Chechen war, there is a lot of inconvenient truth that Putin and his friends are willing to hide...

And according to Wikipedia she was rather famous and wellknown in the journalist world:

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* 2001: Prize of the Russian Union of Journalists
* 2001: Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights Journalism
* 2002: PEN American Center Freedom to Write Award
* 2002: International Women's Media Foundation Courage in Journalism Award
* 2003: Lettre Ulysses Award
* 2003: Hermann Kesten Medal
* 2004: Olof Palme Prize (shared with Lyudmila Alekseyeva and Sergei Kovalev)
* 2005: Prize for the Freedom and Future of the Media [6]
* 2006: International Journalism Award named after Tiziano Terzani
It seems that Russia lost a great journalist...

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Yeap, she was famous on the west for her anti-russian publications.

But in Russian she was not famous. Moreover, there were found falsifications in her books.

But, as you have pointed here, her anti-russian publications were well paid on the West, and she got many grants for her job. Experts say, that she got only officially about 1,5 millions $ of grants.

So, she was much more famous on the west, than in Russia. And that is one more argument why the West was interested in her murder for pressure on Russia.
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Why are you so suspicious towards Western countries? what do they have to gain from this murder? the loss of credibility of Russia? for what reason?

When is Russia be part of WTO? It's taking more time than with China! Because Russia is suspicious of Western countries? what for?

Why Russia always wants to oppose itself against Western countries? Cold war is over, Russia is has capitalist than western countries, and Russia will never be as strong as USSR was, that's one of the problem, Russian are dreaming of the grandeur of USSR, it's a bit the same in France and UK, but I think it's worse in Russia... because the fall was worse...

Hope that Putin who maybe was the right man at the right time to put on tracks Russia, now that is done he must step back, Putin is like a Tsar, democracy is in real danger in Russia, Russia needs a real democrat and be open to the world, and not see itself to oppose to the Western countries, because Russia has nothing to gain with that kind of foreign policy that consists to say the opposite of Western countries...
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Why are you so suspicious towards Western countries? what do they have to gain from this murder? the loss of credibility of Russia? for what reason?
I'm just analyzing. Who was interested in Politkovskaya's murder? Russia? Putin? Why do Politkovskaya was killed on Putin's birthday? Why do Litvinenko was poisoned in theatrical manner?

The answer is simple. Just because America was interested in their death. You ask why? The main reason was to not let Europe cooperate with Russia and to unite Europe against Russia.

In 2001-2005 Putin worked hard to cooperate Russia with Europe. USA do not want to let Europe to cooperate with Russia. That's why that hysteria about "totalitarian Putin's regime" appeared in western press and such persons like Politkovskaya and Litvinenko were killed.

Read Emmanuel Todd - Apres l'empire, Essai sur la decomposition du systeme americain. He wrote well about that. His book was written in 2002, but he foretold that America will do some provocations against Russia and increase pressure on Russia to not let Europe cooperate with Russia.

Because if Europe will cooperate with Russia, there will be no need in America as empire.
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"Journalist Finds His Car Ablaze
By Svetlana Osadchuk
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The editor of a Khimki newspaper said he awoke Thursday to find his car in flames, and he linked the fire to his critical coverage of the recent relocation of Soviet war remains.

Mikhail Beketov, editor and owner of Khimkinskaya Pravda, a weekly in the town on Moscow's northern outskirts, said he heard a loud noise early Thursday and looked out his apartment window to see his Land Rover in flames. The vehicle was destroyed, he said."
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