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Re: Protesters, police clash in Russia
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11 millions of Russian soldiers died in the battles against Germany. 16 millions civilians on the occupied were killed by Germans. Many women and female children were raped by Germans before death, many people were taken into slavery do German's camps, many people died because of starvation cos' Germans burnt out all food and sowing or in blockade of Leningrad. WW2 is Saint War for Russians. This war cost Russians so much pain. As i said before, Estonia is removing not the sign of communism, but the sign of soldiers that laid there lives in the Saint War.
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for us, baltians that monument is a symbol of terror, soviet occupation, murders. Our grandparents died in siberia for nothing, as many other baltians did....
that soldier came to kill us and destroy our nation. All that time we were slaves in our own country. And dont talk about that stupid Saint war, that was only the pretext to occupy us. Russians could just leave us when they won the war, but they brougt us much bigger troubles. That was just one more imperialistic Kremlin plan. And besides, Geneva Convention says it is illegal to build settlements on occupied territory. Russians always were uncivilized and they dont give a shit about the law, to them all means are legal for their imperialistic power big Russian. |
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Nazism and fascism are glorified in Estonia!
SS not die It's a pity that fascism is still alive in Europe.
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Please watch this: Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia CNN is spreading propaganda! American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia" Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes Last edited by MilleVanille; 04-30-2007 at 05:42 AM. |
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Also, to paint members of the 20.Waffen-Gr.Div. der SS as facists and Nazi is dishonest and historically ignorant. They were anti-communits fighting to liberate their country from Soviet occupation. Sadly, they picked a bad ally in the Nazis. Most of those pictures you provided were not SS rallies, but memorial services to the dead.
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There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush. We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country. Last edited by ThorHammer; 04-30-2007 at 06:09 AM. |
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Re: Protesters, police clash in Russia
I believe we have a miss translation happening here. MilleVanille, do you mean the Great Patriotic War?
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There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush. We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country. |
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It is a pity that there are people who justify deaths of 11 millions of Soviet soldiers + 16 millions of Soviet civilians, murdered by Nazi Germans - by the cruelest and wildest barbarians the world ever seen.
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EDIT: I mean, if we are going to cite nations acting cruel and wild barbarians, should we also get into the war crimes committed by Soviet forces at the end of WW2?
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I really regret about your personal grandparents, but understand our point too. The raiding massacres in the Belorussian villages on the occupied lands is not nice, not to mention the Judenfrei issues. The soldiers of Wehrmacht, who risked their asses in the open battles against our army, despised those Himmler's made detachments of hangmen themselves fairly. Quote:
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Re: Protesters, police clash in Russia
indeed. Both give plenty examples of barbarity.
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There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush. We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country. |
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Re: Protesters, police clash in Russia
With wikipedia and some completely unknown site? No thanks. Besides, all sources show that Kasparov's "evil pro-american group" has actually nothing to do with the american government and has proven to be a critic of administration from both parties. Anyway, you've shown that you're
#1 Unable to back your claims #2 Blinded by ultra-nationalism #3 In denial regarding your contry's war-crimes and other crimes So there's no use in going on with this discussion or any other in the future.
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Yes, Nazi-Bolshevik Party is a constant critic of US's government. Just as Bolsheviks! Remember, that Lenin was sponsored by German Government and Leon Bronstein (Trotsky) was sponsored by Americans. The goal of American government is to bring chaos in Russia. It will be much easier to get Russian natural resources in the chaos, like it were in 90s. How can you explain the fact that your beloved "democrat" Kasparov collaborating with Nazi-Bolshevik Party? Nazi-Bolshevik Party is forbidden in Russia, that's why NBP + Kasparov demonstration in Moscow was stopped.
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Please watch this: Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia CNN is spreading propaganda! American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia" Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes |
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There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush. We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country. |
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