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kanas, all you post here is pure propaganda.

No facts, false baseless conclusions, the game on emotions, humiliating - that is typical features of propaganda, and that's what you post here.

kanas, you have shown your level. We don't need your propaganda. And yes, eSStonia is practicing apartheid and oppression on ethnic minorities.
I find it hard to comment on you since what you say about Estonia is right but you seem to think Russia is in its essence a better country which is not true.

A Russian journalist got killed.
Non-Russian people cannot sell their wares on weekly markets.
Elections for regional positions were scrapped.
Political oponents and free press are being obstructed.
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Old 05-08-2007
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I find it hard to comment on you since what you say about Estonia is right but you seem to think Russia is in its essence a better country which is not true.
Who cares about Russia? We are talking about ESStonia, and about the apartheid and discrimination of minorities in Esstonia!
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EU member countries and the United States have supported Estonia as attacks from Russia deepened the diplomatic crisis in the Baltic state.
SBS - WORLD NEWS AUSTRALIA

So, Russian propoganda has no influence. Only russian people believe in Kremlin propoganda, because you already have no free media.
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kanas, all you post here is pure propaganda.
I find it somewhat frustrating that your news and ours differ so much that we clash as a result. Like a side affect of our cultural differences.

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No facts, false baseless conclusions, the game on emotions, humiliating - that is typical features of propaganda, and that's what you post here.
Well, your sides news look like that to us.

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kanas, you have shown your level. We don't need your propaganda. And yes, eSStonia is practicing apartheid and oppression on ethnic minorities.
That is amusing! Russian chanting about other nations apartheid and national self conseus.
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That is amusing! Russian chanting about other nations apartheid and national self conseus.
That's the best expression to show your personal Nazi position.

I've told that you are a Nazi, i repeat that again. The more you post, the more you show your Nazi position.
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That's the best expression to show your personal Nazi position.

I've told that you are a Nazi, i repeat that again. The more you post, the more you show your Nazi position.
Just the same I could call you a communist. I do not know you, and do not know your take on that matter, but because I feel like calling you communist, I will???

Nazi I have never been and will never be. Anything else?
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Now Kremlin propoganda all call Nazis. But they own are real Nazi. That confirm the facts.

Putin support his personal Nazi organization "Nashi" as Hitler supported Hitlerjungend.
The same Nashi ("Putinjungend") came to Talin to destroy the city.
This campaign was coordinated and supported from Kremlin.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Putin's next generation make their mark
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We have to always remember who fought on the Nazi side!

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Ye but that was in the past, now is 2007.
Wake up !!!
Now all facts show that Putin regime is like Hitler regime.
Kremlin again try to restore the Russia empire but now as Nazis not as comunists, but goal remain the same - big and superstate Empire
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kanas, it seems like you are the person who live in the past.
And you are out of reality, if you think that Putin is a Nazi and that "Putin regime is like Hitler regime".

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kanas, it seems like you are the person who live in the past.
And you are out of reality, if you think that Putin is a Nazi and that "Putin regime is like Hitler regime".
Well, Russians today do seem to act much like nazies of old. Would you show nice pics from Russian nazis?
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I find it hard to comment on you since what you say about Estonia is right but you seem to think Russia is in its essence a better country which is not true.

A Russian journalist got killed.
Non-Russian people cannot sell their wares on weekly markets.
Elections for regional positions were scrapped.
Political oponents and free press are being obstructed.
By your leave I'll meddle for a moment on those assertions' point.
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1. A Russian journalist got killed.-
I think you don't mean the guy who perished in Iraq yesterday in the road blast. You mean there are some cases of murders in Russia when the victims appear to be journalists. That's right but you must know that that rate has decreased greatly since the 90-s. The only reasonable statement you can surely conclude is that, yes, Russian government, intelligence and police unfortunately can not put out the criminality and protect the lives of the citizens. If you want to say that our secret services have killed Politkovskaya, you must present some real proofs besides the moronic media speculations, that this killing was would-be profitable for Putin.
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2. Non-Russian people cannot sell their wares on weekly markets. -
Russian citizens cannot sell their wares on weekly markets in Netherlands, they must be citizens of the EU or Netherlands for that - so what?
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3. Elections for regional positions were scrapped.
The regional election system in Russia is now equal to the one of France. So, what's the matter?
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4. Political oponents and free press are being obstructed -
The political opponents like the Communist Party are free to present their position, publish the newspapers and demonstrate the protests. The political figures directly maintained and financed by the US Congress and collaborating with organizations like CIA and it's umbrella NGOs are not the opponents, yet even their press have full freedom (another point is that they are so widely distrusted and despised in society that nobody buys their newspapers, but here is MY freedom - not to buy their sh..t, right?). Their activities are still tolerated because of Russian extra-liberal laws against the foreign agents affecting the inner policy. I hope we will have the stern law like in the US soon.
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Well, Russians today do seem to act much like nazies of old. Would you show nice pics from Russian nazis?
Proof it. Really, this would be interesting to track your conclusions in this prospect. Just try it in the most simple way, like the list "Similarities: Russians Today & Nazies of Old".
As for the nice pics of Russian nazies, there is no doubt that with the help of Google you can find the pics of nazi teenagers bands of any origin - Finnish, US, German, Dutch, whatever. The free existence of such groups is sooner the feature of the democracy, as nobody gets blamed or banned for one's convictions until he is caught commiting the crime.
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Proof it. Really, this would be interesting to track your conclusions in this prospect. Just try it in the most simple way, like the list "Similarities: Russians Today & Nazies of Old".
Evergrowing presence of centralpower, various "youth organizations" pleading loyalty to the one leader, grab of holdings of international owners in favor of domestic ownership -illegally and forcefully, lack of opposition -silenced, belief that one ethnicy is superior to others (the alarming big-Russian rasicm), lack of any critical voice in the nation, murders with political backgrounds, lack of freedom of press, meddling into matter of other nations.

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As for the nice pics of Russian nazies, there is no doubt that with the help of Google you can find the pics of nazi teenagers bands of any origin - Finnish, US, German, Dutch, whatever. The free existence of such groups is sooner the feature of the democracy, as nobody gets blamed or banned for one's convictions until he is caught commiting the crime.
Ususally affective Miliisi did nothing to pacify demonstrator who sacked diplomatic property. Of course miliisi did nothing, these youngs were ordered there and ordered to cause commotion.-Bolded part is general finnish opinion about the matter.

I call facism what Putin is trying to accomplish, and seemingly is succeeding at.
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