Hitler attacked Countries around him without reason or warning. They weren't enemies, he made enemies for himself when he did this.

I think if Yeltsin hated his own country, he wouldn't have been elected by its people.

No... Hitler took from Jews, Gypsies, Gays, and other German people he [quote=laca;979235]deemed "subhuman" because of something they couldn't change. He didn't give to the German people, he only gave to some of them, the Aryans.

...Now your just pulling stuff out of your ass

He 'saved' German people by taking away their say in how their lives were run? by taking away their freedom and replacing it with fascism?

You make it seem like he hated his own country and people. Read up on it and maybe you'll discover he had good motives. Or maybe not. But don't make crap up.

...And failed miserably
You say this over and over again, but it just isn't true.

Hitler was a failed artist who took out his anger and insecurities on people because they were different. He shrieked threats against these people in his speeches, that's not behaving decently in my opinion

There you go again...

I guess he liked killing people more than animals

He liked to drink, so do many

A painless suicide by cyanide pills isn't a very honorable death, he killed himself because he didn't want to be tortured, not because he felt bad for what he did.

Accepting leadership of a brand new government is a crime?


Gorbachev wasn't a traitor or a bad leader.

Wow, it's bad enough you insult a man after his death, but it's even worse that you act like Hitler was a good leader. Even if Yeltsin was a bad leader, saying Hitler is better is just... wrong

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Hitler also had a meth addiction, not much of a sober vegetarian.

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If Stalin were not there Russia may have progressed to be the Communist paradise envisioned by Lenin. Stalin was a person who only cared for himself, not for his people. Communism is supposed to be for the people, but he exploited it and used it for himself. He killed millions of his own through "purges" and starvation. Bush isn't a good leader either, but he isn't a corporate oligarch, just maybe a douche. Stalin did do something bad, and when it is so bad that it ended up killing 10-20 million, then it is the whole world's business. Native Americans were mostly killed by European diseases, not "genocide". We wrongfully took their territory from them, but there was no "genocide". Just greedy territorial wars. As for the slaves.... name a country where slavery has not existed. It is an awful practice, and it was ended over 100 years ago. Now black Americans are as American as White, Asian, Latino or any Americans. The only reason the U.S. and Russia were enemies is because of Stalin's forceful takeover of Eastern Europe, which contributed to starting the Cold War. Russia and the U.S. were equally at fault. The US is not "evil" and neither is Russia, they were just fighting. And as the lack of foreign support for the Iraq War shows, the US has no "western puppets." Im getting tired of having to correct everything you say...

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i always wondered about this.. stalin.. he butchered russians.. yet made russia into a superpower.. is he a hero or a villian for russia?

also do russians care what system of government they have? i was talking to a guy in a bar from my school and he said he was from russia and i was like ' ahh the reds, ' in a drunken joking way and he got alittle annoyed i told him i was kidding... but it seemed like he kept refering to himself as being from europe.. as he is a part of europe.. like being apart of the westernworld.. and was alittle ashamed i guess maybe not the right word.. for being associated with communism/.. the great soviet empire..

anyways do russians want to have the communist soviet empire again or be a democratic state? or do they feel like they have no choice either way so it doesn matter..?

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Good question... I talked to one girl from the USSR who said life there was great and really easygoing while it was the USSR, and i know a guy whose family moved over here in like 94.. maybe because they didn't like the new system, i don't really know. I think after Stalin it gradually got better over there until '89. But I'm sure some people hated the communist government too.

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Why 10 millions? Why 20 millions? Why not 50 millions, 100 millions or 200 millions?

Your digits are not truth. 3.78 millions were condemned totally during Stalin times. 786 thousands of them - death sentences, about 0.5 millions died in camps. Other have returned after imprisonment.

From 50s to 1989 the life in USSR was the best life Russians ever had.

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Sometimes you'd wish the Russian were german so we would have facts to back claims like these up.

btw there were also like 6 million people who died from the '32-'33 famine and some 2 million people who refused to give up their private property.

Please give your source.

Yes, their was famine. But there was famine in Russia in previous years, mostly before Revolution.

2 millions of people have moved from Russia after Revolution, after their property was confiscated by Bolsheviks.

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Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
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American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

Personally I think it is much easier to compare Castro or Kim Jong Il to Hitler than Boris Yeltsin.

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Don't startle him, Joe - it's almost full!

I have nothing against the Soviets or socialism (um... my sig?) or any of that... but Stalin was a poor leader who had his own interests in mind. 10 million deaths is a conservative estimate: "...the number of executions 1936 to 1938 was probably about 1,000,000; that from 1936 to 1950 about 12,000,000 died in the camps; and 3,500,000 died in the 1930-1936 collectivization. Thus we get a figure of 20 million dead..." - Robert Conquest, The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties (Macmillan 1968)Not all were killed directly, but many died nonetheless. Why defend Stalin? He was a false leader anyways.

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That is not reliable source. Those digits are false. 1968 - the middle of Cold War, the time of propaganda and those digits of Conquest are the example of propaganda.

Where did he get the information? From his fantasies? He didn't have an access to Soviet archives! Archives were opened only in 1991, and it was found that digits were much lower than western press publish during Cold War.

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Those digits are absolute lie. From 1920 till 1953 about 10 millions of people have passed through GULAG. 3,4 millions of them - for political reasons (including collaboration with Germans during the war).

As you can see, digits of R. Conquest are false, and an example of western propaganda during Cold War.

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Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

And Stalin would obviously not make it seem like he killed less people in his archives, right?

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