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Old 09-17-2007
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Re: Russia - „The Third Empire“

On the second thought, I am done with this thread. It was as excrement from the very begining, a vile attempt to discredit Russia, I have no doubt about this. The person who started it has failed. It's good he vanished though. Probably is undergoing mental evaluation as we speak.

See ya all some other thread.

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Old 09-17-2007
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Hi, Crystal, could you show open the edited block of the Karry's post, please? Just curious how the encouraging of illegal activities looks like, besides that, I meet the censorship here for the first time. You could post it as the substantial example, which probably would be accepted by the provider positively.
I sent you a PM, but what it basically comes down to is this: Our site is based is the US. It is a Federal offense to call for the President to be killed.
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Crystal, thanks. Reasonable.
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I read an article, that's says that Latvia people do not feel fear of Russia, on the opposite a large of Russians are fearing Latvia.... It was poll. When the Latvia person said this to some Russian, the Russian were astonished...

This is quite representative in which world the Russian are leaving in. All those military exercises, theses bombing tests, aggressive attitude towards European countries (Gazprom vs Ukraine, Georgia, etc...)... what are they fearing of?

I see a parallel with Bush and it's war on terror, Putin wants the Russian to feal fear too, he needs it.
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i cant help but feel the russia and russians want war with the united states.
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Old 09-18-2007
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i cant help but feel the russia and russians want war with the united states.
ha-ha!

Russians do not want the war neither with USA nor other countries.

But Russians do want USA to have wars with muslim countries all around the globe, because we can always blame USA for that.



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This is quite representative in which world the Russian are leaving in. All those military exercises, theses bombing tests, aggressive attitude towards European countries (Gazprom vs Ukraine, Georgia, etc...)... what are they fearing of?
And you still asking about? Europe tried to kill us several times, from polish and lithuanian invasions to french and german aggression, when germans tried to exterminate all Russians.

16 millions killed Russians were civilians among 27 million deaths from Russian side totally in this war. Germans were burning fields and food to kill people with starvation....

For example, two children of my grandmother (sister and brother of my mother, my aunt and uncle) died of starvation because Germans have burned fields and all food.

So, why do you wonder that Russians feel danger from europe/america.
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man we all tried to kill each other at one time or another. russia is not the only victim of war you know. I understand ww2 was a particularly nasty experiance for you but still I don't see what can be gained by increasing hostilities with everyone.
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man we all tried to kill each other at one time or another. russia is not the only victim of war you know. I understand ww2 was a particularly nasty experiance for you but still I don't see what can be gained by increasing hostilities with everyone.
Well said.
Soviet Union was both a victim and a victor, aggressor and a defender in that war. Mirrowing every aspect of Europe today based on that war is not very wise, since Soviets themselves did questionable deeds then.
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I read an article, that's says that Latvia people do not feel fear of Russia, on the opposite a large of Russians are fearing Latvia.... It was poll. When the Latvia person said this to some Russian, the Russian were astonished...

This is quite representative in which world the Russian are leaving in. All those military exercises, theses bombing tests, aggressive attitude towards European countries (Gazprom vs Ukraine, Georgia, etc...)... what are they fearing of?

I see a parallel with Bush and it's war on terror, Putin wants the Russian to feal fear too, he needs it.
So all this childish bullshit in the newspaper, applying the term "fears" to the nations as easy as if we were kids in the kindergarten for oligofrens, is quite reasonable for you? Corporation Gazprom, let it be corporation with 51% of government capitalization, lifted the prices for Ukraine to the level 50% of world price, and you see here all Russians fear of what? Do you have fear of Moon, Anselme? It looks soooo threatening, as it often hangs over your head in the night, as if intending to fall directly upon you head.
Sometimes, people, I feel myself here in this forum, like in some psychocircus, in the psycodelic world of Kafka or something. Stop eat those antidepressantes, and come back to our cozy world.
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So it was USSR who attacked USSR. Well, that's predictable european point of view.
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i cant help but feel the russia and russians want war with the united states.
Small wonder, while reading the articles on which you base you judgements about world, it drives home clear that US and Israel are surrounded with foes, grinding knives and forging bombs against you. Because, because...Oh, yeah, because they are ENVIOUS OF you, ain't they?
In reality, the point is that people around the world can't help but have bad feeling we all live besides the ape with grenade, suffering from paranoya about everyone walking on two legs. I won't say for all, but think I'm not the one who understand that both countries I mentioned would unleash the apocalypsis just out of economical difficulties, connected to the growing inability to sustain privileged prices for fuel. Your elites will sooner blow up the planet, rather then pay for gasolin equally to the Germans or Brits.
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Small wonder, while reading the articles on which you base you judgements about world, it drives home clear that US and Israel are surrounded with foes, grinding knives and forging bombs against you. Because, because...Oh, yeah, because they are ENVIOUS OF you, ain't they?
In reality, the point is that people around the world can't help but have bad feeling we all live besides the ape with grenade, suffering from paranoya about everyone walking on two legs. I won't say for all, but think I'm not the one who understand that both countries I mentioned would unleash the apocalypsis just out of economical difficulties, connected to the growing inability to sustain privileged prices for fuel. Your elites will sooner blow up the planet, rather then pay for gasolin equally to the Germans or Brits.
[Emphasis mine]Those words are an excellent example of the type of fear that perpetuated the Cold War. If both sides lose the fear then there will not be a renaissance of a Cold War.
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[Emphasis mine]Those words are an excellent example of the type of fear that perpetuated the Cold War. If both sides lose the fear then there will not be a renaissance of a Cold War.
What both sides? Imagine, there is no Russia in the world at all (for instance we have ocean there instead of terrain surface) - will this amend anything in current tendencies? The US don't want to buy the fuel legally due to common regulations, and desperately tries to keep price advantages and dollar as global currency. Both intentions are doomed ones. The absence of Russia could sooner accelerate the process, as our country today supports the European part of the US empire with resources and take away part of headache of the Washington, whatever is babbled about blackmail - long term contracts NEVER HAVE BEEN ERUPTED. Without Russia the US would have been fighting their allies in the ME for the rest of oil and gas today, saving their own domestic economy and commonwealth. The market economy model of the West doesn't assume the possible deficit of anything, you know.
What Cold War? There is no more second part in the cozy equation. Russia is out of the game and there is no more clear bipolar balance. We don't want anything from the outer world - neither command it, control, nor care about it. The raiding wars, the US leads nowdays don't touch our minds - do whatever you want, rob and kill, we don't take responsibility and obligations to protect or patronate anyone and meddle into other people's fate. New Cold War? Ha, look for the idiots elsewhere - why will we oppose the dirty bog the US created around themselves and play the strawman for you? What benefit or reward would we have for ourselves then? Nothing.
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What both sides?...
The "both sides" you discussed, comrade.
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.... We don't want anything from the outer world - neither command it, control, nor care about it....
Cold War-speak.
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The Cold War2 offer is rejected, ....
I suggest you do reject it. The best way to do so is to pay attention to attitudes cropping up that are just like attitudes entrenched during the Cold War.
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