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Old 10-11-2007
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This photo is from "democratic" opposition protest with Harry Kasparov.
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Old 10-12-2007
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The official authorities try to discredit „the discontent“ by all possible means and portray them as extremist elements. Usually it is highlighted that the prohibited National-Bolshevik party, headed by the scandalous writer Eduard Limonov (Savenko) also participates in the marches.

In Russia it has become customary to disperse „marches of the discontent“ so as if they were a threat to security and stability of the country. Usually 1,5 thousand workers of force structures and special services „protect“ about 0,5 thousand participants of meetings. After marches usually from several to several dozens participants are detained. Preventive arrests also take place before the events."

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Old 10-13-2007
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kanas -- wrong!
"..threat to security and stability of the country.."? Why not when protesters are obviously posing for BBC displaying English written posters and only waiting for the moment police comes to contain the rampage which is to be video taped and claimed later as harassment from Bolsheviks? Pathetic! Fools. Those protesters are paid to do this afterall. Who is the donor? US based 'Freedom House', for example, Soros foundation, to name a few. Is it legitimate according to the law of Russia? No.
Or when US senate finds out Russian money is being funneled to support state of Main break away for independence from federation? They would feel outraged to the fact!
I still cannot figure out as to why Mr.Putin allows such funding?

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Bolsheviks were and are sponsored by UK/USA.
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Bolsheviks were and are sponsored by UK/USA.
Duh!.. it's well known fact. Why did you have to bring this here and now? You think we are all idiots on this great board?
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The same shit happened in Stalingrad. Stalin forbade the evacuation of civilians until it was too late.
exactly........

heres a review of a book considered the sine qua non regards the siege etc.



Harrison E. Salisbury wrote no fewer than six books about the Soviet Union during his journalistic career. The 900 Days is a reprint of the 1969 edition that was banned in Russia, and no wonder. It implicated Stalin and his regime in the mass starvation and murder of a million and a half of his own people.

It was Salisbury's contention that "Stalin seems to have felt that because Leningrad...gave birth to the 1917 revolution, the city might ultimately turn against him," and that "it was in Leningrad that [the purges] were given their characteristic leitmotif of macabre paranoia." The author lays the story bare in exhaustive and often gruesome detail, through the remarkable observations of those who survived, and with reliance on his own research as a Moscow correspondent at the time.

War was only a rumor when Stalin began slowly, consciously, to turn his back on the city of Leningrad and, for reasons unknown, to ignore the clear signals that Hitler would invade Russia, with the ancient city of (formerly) St. Petersburg as a likely target. After the attacks began, just before the blockade of the city got underway, Stalin would have known that 3,400,000 people were to be fed with enough supplies on hand to last only about three or four weeks. Those who could survive the savage air bombardment would be doomed to slow starvation.

By October 1, 1941, only the army and civilian volunteers were guaranteed sufficient food. "Non-workers and children...received one-third of a loaf of poor quality bread a day...as time went on, bread, such as it was, more and more often was the only food issued." The bread was an ersatz mix of denigrated rye flour, flax seeds and chaff.

The siege lasted 900 days, during which time people died by the thousands every day. During the coldest winter on record, corpses were left to lie in the snow, and the spring thaw brought forth the horrors of the stench of death and a lingering putrid flavor to the drinking water that no one who tasted it could ever forget. Caught by the camera's eye, the ones who got through that first winter were mere stick figures.

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Duh!.. it's well known fact. Why did you have to bring this here and now? You think we are all idiots on this great board?
really?

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I can only but congratulate you. So, again, what is the point? Wiki tells of opposing Red army insurgents.....it says nothing of who funded uprise though. So take my word for it, if Wiki was so shy,..Russian revolution was funded by Gernams and British in hopes to gain posession of Siberian resourses, when Russians simply kill each other in a mean time and become easy prey for invasion.
Just like nowadays, Mrs Albright has stated that its unfair that all the wealth of Russia belongs to one nation. I hope she is burning in hell as I speak.
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I can only but congratulate you. So, again, what is the point? Wiki tells of opposing Red army insurgents.....it says nothing of who funded uprise though. So take my word for it, if Wiki was so shy,..Russian revolution was funded by Gernams and British in hopes to gain posession of Siberian resourses, when Russians simply kill each other in a mean time and become easy prey for invasion.
Just like nowadays, Mrs Albright has stated that its unfair that all the wealth of Russia belongs to one nation. I hope she is burning in hell as I speak.
LOL...Well, you've got to admit, it is unfair...
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Mrs Albright... I hope she is burning in hell as I speak.
on that I agree but for different reasons...
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Imperator,

was it for Albright statment when asked May 11, 1996 60 Minutes question about the over half a million children killed by the [Iraqi] sanctions
Death of 500,000 Children 'Worth It'

Albright: "It’s a hard choice, but I think, we, think, it’s worth it."

Is that what you dislike her for? No? I'm wrong again?
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AdrienXII, ha-ha-ha -LOL, did I get your comment right? Now that belongs to a thread "Why everyone hates USA and France". Ha-ha..jeez.. Never thought that combination was possible.

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I can only but congratulate you. So, again, what is the point? Wiki tells of opposing Red army insurgents.....it says nothing of who funded uprise though. So take my word for it, if Wiki was so shy,..Russian revolution was funded by Gernams and British in hopes to gain posession of Siberian resourses, when Russians simply kill each other in a mean time and become easy prey for invasion.
Just like nowadays, Mrs Albright has stated that its unfair that all the wealth of Russia belongs to one nation. I hope she is burning in hell as I speak.
Intresting theory about the civil war in Russia, I must say.
Red Russians patted themselves in the back when they finally won, because they did it on their own and were united enough to accomplish it.
White generals were fighting eachothers and communists. Western allied expeditionary forces were too small and generally the mood in their homelands was way too warweary to even want to wage more wars.
I have read and heard about aid to the white generals, but not ever to the Reds. And siberian resources... rriiight.
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Bla-bla-bla-right. Anything else usefull to contribute here? If you are trying to pose as our new history teacher, we all as one here to say 'fuck you'. I know it will add another number of negative points and probably I will be caged for 30 days but it does feel envigorating, Fennica.
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Old 10-13-2007
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[quote=kanas;1024323]"According to scientists, for twenty years there will be no shortage of the Russian oil resources. .........


It looks Anglo masters are getting nervous by loosing their neo-colonial supremacy. The difference between on one side Anglo alliances and other side Russia and China is that Russia and China don’t go around rapping other nations and grabbing oil and natural resources by creating wars based on false “moral” reasons.
China simply comes, for example in Africa, and offers unconditional economical deals unlike Anglo “religious democratic” predatory warriors.
The most painful for Pome and Yankee Colonial masters is that they are and they will be more ignored by the Russia, China and the rest of the world. The time of Anglo supremacy based on greed and immoral bluffing is over.
The bottom line is that nothing can stop rise of China and Russia however it sounds unpleasant for those who still consider themselves as superiors.
Ah this bloody nasty Putin broke all stereotypes about Russians. Unlike Yeltsin he does not get drunk, how we are going to corrupt him? Or maybe Berezovsky’s Jewish mafia in London can eliminate him, Why not?
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