well said and Czechoslovakia and Poland are not, so they are free to add radar and missile defenses sites right?

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Obama-e fungis nati homines....

You are also a lot more dependant on driving than we are, so I guess its fair enough.

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It is not funny at all, especially if you know how this piece was taken.

This piece is a very small price for millions of Russians raped and killed by german barbarians.

Didn't you notice that i can fluently read and understand english?

If you don't know yet, there's no such a country as Czechoslovakia in the world.

And Czechia and Poland are in EU and somehow have to cooperate with EU members.

I don't even tell, that they have to take opinion of their people into the account. About 70% of Czechs are against that radar.

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Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

and them cooperating with eh EU means what? the defense is meant to shield them all....I cannot help it of your homegrown propaganda had conned you into believing something esle....

and as far as 70% of czecks being against it? Oh so you want to put in a referendum to be voted on? great ,thats pretty cheeky coming from you, a member of a society that allows zero dissent...and who's leader has taken control of the duma so as to control all debate... and not brooking any other voices that don't agree..and when Putin either installs his puppet or installs himself to another term, i'll be interested in what you have to say about votes and a referendum...please...you are really streching credulity here...

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Obama-e fungis nati homines....

If i tell you directly, it will be an offense.

You are just an example of brainwashing, so no need to talk with you.
You mind do not allow deviation from what you been talked through your biased media.

Plus, that is very "democratic" to not take people's opinion into the account...

Just shows that USA turns into the USSR.

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Please watch this:


Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

What about the millions of Russians raped and killed by Stalin's barbarians?

Or, have you only been reading the "new" history?

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This makes no sense. You accuse others of being "brainwashed," yet you clearly don't question what Putin's media is telling you.

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Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

MY bias media.... how many media have been offed lately here?.....all with the remarkable commonality that they were reporting on abuses in the Bush (Putin) system....please....as I said you are stretching credulity to a degree that would snap any rubber band...enjoy your paradise....and another term from Putin.....

as I said your comment on not taking "peoples' opinion into account is totally absent of the DEMOCRATIC legislative process that occur here that’s why we elect NOT appoint ala Putin members of congress and the senate..as poorly served as we are that detracts nothing....you cannot put everything to a popular vote..you above all should know that since your own provincial governors are creatures of Putin.....your “system’ is ruled and controlled by one man..and one man only...a refusal to acknowledge this is a denial of reality.....toke up.


yea you don't need to talk to me becasue yu are already in ablack out anywway..so why lsiten to anyone...tune into radio Moscow so you can be fed the next pack of nonsense that is no different from the old Pravda....

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Obama-e fungis nati homines....

From what I read many Americans are as ignorant about Russian culture and history as they are regarding ME countries. If a government doesn't pattern itself and its actions after the US right down to what the politicians say, it's immediately rejected by many Americans. All this thread needs to make it completely American rejection is Varuss or such ranting about the evils and dangers of communism while quoting his Christian bible.

Lichtenstein, Switzerland and Norway - are these countries either laughable to you? If yes, would you please clarify what exactly do excites you so much? Your comment is strange.

I don't read "Putin-dominated media", Pram, if only you didn't mean the Economist, WSJ, Times the ones, because they are full of chanting "Putin" almost every day on the cause and without it. What I do is continious comparison of the ignorant and biased opinions about my country fed to the public in the US and Britain, to what I see in my country with my own eyes.
Given your statements, especially the pearls like "the millions of Russians raped and killed by Stalin's barbarians" I in turn can suppose that you are fresh immigrant in the US, perhaps your parents came to the Land of Free and brought you up with the hostile attitude towards Russia they had before. Do you have Jewish origins, Pram? What you say smells like the typical cries from Brighton-beach community in New-York, which average American thinks to be Russian community.
Putin offers the US' elites to choose between two ways of building ABM system. First protects part of European countries and threatens Russia. The second protects ALL European countries and doesn't threaten Russia. If the american radar is so "next-gen" and overstrides the radar built in 1985, the US are welcome to build it nearby Russian station in Azerbaijan, no problem. Putin offered PLACE. What you think about Soviet radars is not that interesting, you can slander and go mocking over them whatever you want.
We don't ask the US of anything or try to persuade, we just want to make clear the intentions of the US. If it's tough confrontation and rocket threat - ok, blaze away, guys.

So, Oleg, are you unaware of Stalin's atrocities? Why must you ask if I'm Jewish?

Very interesting.

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Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

First of all, they were not raped.
Second, the number of Stalin's victims is overestimated.
The great digits of Stalin's victims were calculated on the West in 60s, in the middle of Cold War, so no wonder they are biased.

I've read in western cold war sources the number of victims from 2 to 100 millions. So obviously the number of victims in the western sources depended on the level of author's imagination.

So when archives were opened it was found that the real number of Stalin's victims is about 4 millions. Notice, that GULAG was used by Stalin not only for political enemies, but mostly for criminals. And this 4 millions include also criminals.

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Please watch this:


Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

Because during soviet times people (including Jews) were not allowed to leave the country till they pay off the cost of their high education.

The majority of who wanted to leave were jews (for Israel) and of course most of them were given free high education.

That's why they turned anti-Russian.

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Please watch this:


Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

It is interesting reading these russians comments, because it is definetly pretty critical of america.. but it is very fresh and new anti americanism..the anti americanism i am used to hearing is old and typical.. these are interesting.. with that said..


Early researchers of the number killed by Stalin's regime were forced to rely largely upon anecdotal evidence. Their estimates range from a low of 3 million to as high as 60 million.[47][48] When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, evidence from the Soviet archives finally became available. The government archives record that about 800,000 prisoners were executed (for either political or criminal offences) under Stalin; another 1.7 million died of privation[citation needed] or other causes in the Gulags; and some 389,000 perished during kulak resettlement - a total of about 3 million victims.
Debate continues, however,[49] since some historians believe the archival figures to be unreliable.[50] Also, it is generally agreed that the data are incomplete, since some categories of victim were carelessly recorded by the Soviets - such as the victims of ethnic deportations, or of German population transfer in the aftermath of WWII.
Thus, while some archival researchers have posited the number of victims of Stalin's repressions to be no more than about 4 million in total,[51][52][53] others believe the number to be considerably higher. Russian writer Vadim Erlikman,[54] for example, makes the following estimates: executions 1.5 million, gulags 5 million, deportations 1.7 million (out of 7.5 million deported), and POWs and German civilians 1 million - giving a total of about 9 million victims of repression.
Some have also included the 6 to 8 million victims of the 1932-33 famine.[55][56][57] In this case, historians differ as to whether the famine was deliberate - as part of the campaign of repression against kulaks - or simply an unintended consequence of the struggle over forced collectivization. (See also: Droughts and famines in Russia and the USSR).
Regardless, it appears that a minimum of around 10 million surplus deaths (4 million by repression and 6 million from famine) are attributable to the regime, with a number of recent books suggesting a probable figure of somewhere between 15 to 20 million. Adding 6-8 million famine victims to Erlikman's estimates above, for example, would yield a figure of between 15 and 17 million victims. Pioneering researcher Robert Conquest,[58] meanwhile, has revised his original estimate of up to 30 million victims down to 20 million. Others, however, continue to maintain that their earlier much higher estimates are correct.[59]

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
COVER STORY: Counting Stalin's victims 50 years on - 28 June 2003

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