Well, I listen with respect to your views. I am not convinced, but as you are European (I'm not sure which nation) you obviously have more first-hand information than I do. I am not sure why you think this - but again, I respect your thoughts and perspective.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

top-right corner of the post. I had my nations flag there for a while too but since the only ones wearing small flags on their clothing are white-pride skinheads it didnt feel so good. Not that im not proud of my country.

Sorry! I didn't check.

There is plenty to be proud of in the Netherlands.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

We calculate and measure things many times before act. If we'd come to a conclution that Europe will slide into war against Russia, we might bring Estonia all we could, without weakening our own lines. Because as sure as they'd realize that EU and Russia is at war, shooting war would begin in our own borders. Not a pretty thought, that Europeans would talk, as bordernations would have to fight.

Estonia is a flat and has rather dense woodlands, but should U.S. send aid right away, it would be very close call.

This all would be the most dire scenario one might think of, because it would mean a new World War.

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En uneksi. I do not dream.

When you say "aid" - what do you mean?

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

Everything we possibly could spare. Ammo, artillery pieces, field hospitals, first aid materia, and recieve refugees.
We are too few in numbers to be able to fight both at our borders and in other nation.
Most likely fair amount of voulonteers would go and give a hand untill war would break out at home and these troops would be called home.

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En uneksi. I do not dream.

You are referring to Finland here - and I have no doubt the people of Finland would do all they could in every way. My understanding is that Finland and Estonia have an especially strong relationship. It's interesting to read this.

My question was also about what aid the U.S. would give, because you mentioned the U.S. by name.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

Estonia are closest kin we have, and both kin are and have always been few. Right before WW2 Estonia and Finns were talking about union in order to cut Soviet Eastern sea route entirely.

U.S. is a NATO nation, and according to that treaty you are to use all and any possible means to defend the nation under attack.
Most likely you'd send Navy battle-Group, but Danmarks narrows would slow the task force and I'd imagine U.S. marines would make a hasty landfall in order to help efforts until more NATO troops would arrive.
At the same time transport aicraft would most likely move troops and materia to the scene and NATO air forces would fight to keep the skies.

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En uneksi. I do not dream.

[quote]I was recently in Hamburg and Lübeck and stayed with residents there. We were talking about the best way to travel around both the Baltic and North Sea, and they mentioned that the large ferries are the best for the Baltic. I have always been curious about the Baltic capitals. The next time I go, I will take the ferry from Estonia to Finland: they said that this is the most common route with a lot of travel.

That is how the topic of Finnish-Estonian relations came up.

A NATO nation? I don't understand these comments coming from you. I have been gone from this forum for a long time, but we have both been around for a while - and I know what you think about Americans. You are telling me you would want American troops involved? American military? Are you serious?

I do not understand at all.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

Well as I said europeans like helping you and like being helped when we think its beneficial.

Ferryboat liners. Most common way to move from nation to nation in the East Sea.

Finns saw it more like `older brother´-`little brother´ terms few years back. Estonians are much more happy with the current equal nations-thing.

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It's not wanting, that would most likely lead to WW, and yet again, my nation would have to fight, but that is one possibility of scenarios.
U.S. is the power-player in NATO, and due to the massive funds your military has the ability to move troops quickly. But it might not be quickly enough.
I have little against yanks, but much against your current world-views and leaders.

I think the other one; where NATO abandoms Baltics as expandable, is just as likely to happen.
In such a scenario Estonia would eventually be overwhelmed as NATO would remove forces away to keep them from clashing against Russian federations troops.

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En uneksi. I do not dream.

I am not convinced. Hopefully we will never see this put to the test - but right now I do not see how it could possibly happen.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

I wonder if NATO will even exist in a few years.

The whole scenario would be a terrible tragedy for the Baltic states. I think there would be volunteers from many nations around the world.

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

I think NATO played its role now the cold war is over. I dont think it adds anything to the other transnational organizations.

What other organizations?

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1