Are you a Moldovian or a Russian?
Not as odd question as others might think of, because for example in Baltics, there are lots of people who say that they are Russians living in another nation.
And they want to be Russians with all the benefits of the country they live in.

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In matter of Moldova it's better talk not about "benefits", but about losses.

The same with Baltics, cos' consumer prices in Baltics are 1.8 higher than in Russia, while incomes are only 1.2 times higher.

I don't see any problem here. Russians want to stay Russians.

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Please watch this:


Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

Fennica, you lost me, bud. I just dont follow you. Anyway, I am Ukranian, if this matters here. Look again to your right hand top corner of my every post and read: LOCATION: Moldova. Where the hell does it say 'nationality'? It is just location. You know, place one is currently located at..Not nationality..Jeez..What is wrong with you?

Why doesn't this surprise me at all..

You then might want to consider slapping the flag of your nationality in that fabeled right hand side upper corner.
As being such a simple question, it strikes me as odd you being so aggressive and egoistic. So, you are a Russian-Ukranian or Ukranian?

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Agreed, but then again; it is very hard to hear or read any news from that part of the world. From our point of view, they are very distant place.

The same with Baltics, cos' consumer prices in Baltics are 1.8 higher than in Russia, while incomes are only 1.2 times higher.[/quote]Have to check that one, but I suspect you know what you talk about. Why wont the Russian origin people move to Russia then?

I talked about this subject with your countrymen (athough they were young women, not `men´), and they had the same stance. I agree, nothing wrong with having identity and customs of ones origins, but those should not go against customs and habits of the country living in. Having rights means having duties and responsibilities.

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their the econmoy is humming, flat tax, 10% growth.....yea, its dismal there...

http://www.tukkk.fi/pei/bre/BRE5_200...le60_52006.pdf

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
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Their economical "growth" is based on economical growth in Russia. for example, in Estonia economical growth has fallen on 3% after the scandal. And notice that there were no sanctions from Russian side. But railroad transportation was reduced on 5% and that caused that loss.

Only one Saint-Petersburg has bigger GN(L)P than all baltic countries all together.

Petersburg and Leningrad region has economical growth over 30%. So it's quite obvious that their economical growth in based on booming economy in neighbor Russian regions.

Why british origin people move from America to Britain then?

It's a big loss of time to talk with narrow-minded finnish nationalist...

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Please watch this:


Shocking video of results of Georgian attack on South Osetia
CNN is spreading propaganda!
American witness: "Not only Georgia, but also U.S. are responsible for the violence in South Ossetia"
Mark Almond: It's simplistic to cast Russia as sole villain in South Ossetia clashes

Fennica, it is extremely impolite to judge people by their nationality. Or, I guess, being Finnish, does not require to be polite. You are probably very young so I spare you this time around. But every time you go to sleep, you close your eyes and repeat "being prejudes is wrong, Fennica, being prejudes is wrong, Fennica..." untill you fall wrapped into beautiful dreams where vodka is sold in your local supermarket and St.Petersburg is actually a suburb of Helsinki...promiss me that!
But we are here not to talk about Suomi or my nationality.
So ,what was that about "Third Empire"? I already forgot what are we discussing here...hmmm...the US? Oh, yeah, Russia..That's odd, but anyway,
proceed, ladies and gentelmen, please.

p.s. by the way, if you have never been to the US, Fennica, you probably should. There, my friend, you mention nationality, you can get serioulsy injured. I give Americans a huge credit for that and in fact many other good will mind sets. They are just being missled lately, that's all.

Yet, that is a common thing to do regardless of nationality. Certain charictaristics do come with an origin of birth. U.S. people are different in that aspect, they are made from everyone else.

Forest replies as you shout. Polite manners produce it, lack of it..

Age and intelletual level are not related. Wisdom, not intellectual level comes with age. I am more than quarter of a century.

"Fennica" means `just another Finn´. Vodka is sold in a nearby supermarket, in alko, and no Finn wants/have never wanted St. Petersburg.

I can help us hop right into this thread again.
¤possibility¤
Russians living in other nations cry to the motherland how poorly they are treated and beg their countrymen for help, which Federation grants by means of diplomatic force, or by extended diplomacy. ¤close possibility¤

How was that? This type of interventions have been used throughout history to justify invasions and forced annexations. And I am not saying that they'd do that, mearly that they have the means to accomplish it.

If Russians living in another nations pledge support to Russian Federation, not to the land they live in, problems arise.

U.S., like all other nations, have poor apples in a basket. Beating someone over nationality is never accetable and those responsible should be punished. Russian problem of late is that hate-crimes against "forgeiners"(but still citizens of Russian Federation) are in rapid climb because of current political athmosphere. One good example is the two Russian 18 year-old ones who killed several dozed people because they looked forgein.
That is a problem.

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Fennica, try to use more common words and expressions, please..Your rant sounds like a meaningless word salad. Really. And I assure you, everything you say so far, and how you say sa far, has nothing to do with neither intelligence nor wisdom. Trust me. At least from where I stand.

Just do me, and us, perhaps, all, a favor and re state your stance on 'origin of birth' and what the heck 'Russia - the third empire' means? I'm asking you because you were one of the most active posters here. Please. And remember, plain english, alright? This is for your own good untill you master more complex terms hopefully withing next quater century (jeez..and who in hell can say "I'm quater of a century old.." What are you --- some archeological marvel?)

peace

I dunno about that, all they have is "we are the messiahs" mindset, and "lets kill anyone who does not agree with us" mindset. A terrorist nation, USia.

karry -- it cannot be further from truth. Mind you, I have friends there and lived there for a while and know what am I talking about. Be ojective and give honest simple folks benefit of a doubt, please.
I, for one now feel guilty for exchanging unfriendly opinions with Fennica for I think that Finland is one beautilul contry with very nice people living there. True, it is more advance than Russia today, more efficient, so to say, and remained neutral and a good neighbour overall throughout our entire history. If I would conclude about Finland based solely on what Fennica says..hmmm..hey, may be that's what is he trying to accoumplish..clash us all here head to head? But why? Nahhh, it doesn't make sence.
karry --- wake up!!!! And should I remind you --- you are on AMERICAN forum so act yourself as a guest, please. Otherwise, you bring shame on all Russians who might visit this thread.

And I already tried to go back to topic. Meaningless word salad.. only if you fail to understand it and then it is not my fault.

You have your opinion, I do not share it.

What is a Russian born and living in Estonia? Russian, or Estonian? Does this person go to the army in order to be able and willing to defend his home-nation? What is his home? Does he pay taxes to the nation he lives in? Does he follow laws of the nation he has born in? Does he feel equal to an Estonian?

Third Empire was Russian saying. When Konstantinopole fell to the Osmans in 1454, Second Roman Empire was destroyed. Russians, who adopted so much from Bysantium felt that they are the Third Rome, third Empire.

peace[/quote]Nope, but have studied history. Don't bash me if you fail to understand more complex words, OK? More than 25.

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Fennica, I think your refering '..Russia felt as a third empire' is fallacy. Well, may be some nut job back 14th century did call her just that and there were reasons leading to this statement but without Internet who the hell knew about it. France felt that she was Third Empire, I am sure. British too. May be even Finland or what ever premordial entity was there before her, too felt like they are an Empire, and whoever disagreed have been paid a visit by couple of thousand crusaders.

Now, this is a Third Empire in its glory:

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --- now, that's my friend I call historical fact.

What is this topic name implies, anyway? I thought we discussing here more than ancient history..Work your thought further, please.

Nope, i am right, very much so. Those gullible dimwits really believe with their hearts, that by killing thousands of people they are doing them all a great favor. They really believe its better for the world if USia bombs every country there is, and put its ethnic cleansing squads to control the population.

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