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Old 10-18-2007
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Re: Medium range missles back in the fray, says Putin

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I asked you for sources. You made the claim, you back it up.
I named my sources. If you dont know basic radiophysics, which is not that hard to understand even for amateurs - thats your problem.

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its locating information lacks sufficient accuracy for weapons targeting.
Accuracy isnt critical. S-300 is detonated semi-manually, and payload blast radius is up to 500 meters, its not designed to hit the target 100% of time.

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Missiles stationed in Poland will be totally unable to stop any ICBMs launched from Russia against the United States, should that scenario ever happen.
That is so. However, if the warheads are changed to nukes - they will be able to reach Moscow in under 2 minutes, which is fastest ever, hoping for a chance that there will be no time to react.
What, you believe that USia actually have enough decency and morality to NOT install the nukes ? Yeah, right.
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Old 10-18-2007
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I named my sources. If you dont know basic radiophysics, which is not that hard to understand even for amateurs - thats your problem.
No you didn't. You gave me a general search topic, and basically told me to have at it. You gave no specifics on where you pulled your information from, specifically that Russian radars can pick up American stealth aircraft. That isn't how a debate works.

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Accuracy isnt critical. S-300 is detonated semi-manually, and payload blast radius is up to 500 meters, its not designed to hit the target 100% of time.
It still has to be able to get within 500 meters of a fast moving target. That is going to be extremely hard to do it that missile is using low frequency radar as targetting guidence.

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That is so. However, if the warheads are changed to nukes - they will be able to reach Moscow in under 2 minutes, which is fastest ever, hoping for a chance that there will be no time to react.
Why though? That is redundant. We already have missile systems deployed that can deliver a nuke within that amount of time.

Besides, IIRC, we don't have nukes on the European continent anymore.

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What, you believe that USia actually have enough decency and morality to NOT install the nukes ? Yeah, right.
On the missiles intended for this particular weapon system? Yes, I do.
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Accuracy isnt critical. S-300 is detonated semi-manually, and payload blast radius is up to 500 meters, its not designed to hit the target 100% of time.
So, basically, it's flak?

Yay WWII technology!
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Old 10-19-2007
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What, you believe that USia actually have enough decency and morality to NOT install the nukes ? Yeah, right.
Um, this is just silly.

We're talking about a surface to air missile system here, not a surface to surface system. The warheads are much smaller than those in a ground attack missile.

So even if the "USia" (whoever the heck they are) were to install "nukes", you're not talking about a weapon that can be used to attack Moscow to any meaningful effect.

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Um, this is just silly.
Weapons proliferation is silly, and I blame the silly anthropoid for starting it.
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Um, this is just silly.

So even if the "USia" (whoever the heck they are) were to install "nukes", you're not talking about a weapon that can be used to attack Moscow to any meaningful effect.

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Yeah, of course not Moscow. I support your outlook, man. Anything but Moscow. Why those commies freak when all we need is to deter Iran's nukes 125 years from now. That's when I'm talking prevention! Smart and care for the people of the USA? Matt?

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So it is the so-called "defence not-for-all", since most of South-Eastern Europe remains "unshielded".
If this shield has no role of "political irritant" in Russia-USA relations, then it remains unclear why the US reject all other possibilities of the shield location, as well as Russia's proposals to create common anti-missile defence.


their suggestion regards placement in one of the lower stans does not hold water from a targeting standpoint, they would be to close to the possible launch sites...
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We rejected it because the site proposed by Russia, either Armenia or Azerbaijan IIRC, are not suitable locations for this system. If the missiles were based in either of those countries, the reaction time that our system would have will be cut drastically. The Polish site will allow the system more time to accurately calculate trajectory, course, altitude, and speed. Therefore making intercept much easier.
excellent synposis Thor..didn't see that when I posted above....
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No, you just wanted a reason to troll
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