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Old 12-19-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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I have the freedom to read what man who may have a flacid penis has to write, and I like having that freedom.
What is the point of this post?
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.
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Old 12-19-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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“Land Of The Freedom”, America now has, the largest number in the world, staggering 7 million jailed citizens.
“The bastion of the western democracy and freedom”, Grate Brittan is the most spied nation in the world with more cameras than the rest of Europe put together.
At the same time both of those countries constantly wants to teach others about individual freedoms, human rights etc.
What about Anglo - brotherhood ultimate hypocrisy? Do they want to teach us about that as well?
I don't believe that the main signal that the high incarceration rates provide deal with freedom. The bigger issue is that people for some reason see fit to break these laws instead of living normal lives. If I were an American I would be embarrassed.
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Old 12-20-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

If it's a freedom to feel secure and have yourself and your property protected, isn't also a freedom to have protection from other bodily harm, like disease? How many americans don't have health insurance?
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Old 12-20-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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The heck with that Chassis! You'll have the right to smoke drugs and pay for sex! Get your priorities straight bro
I also wonder if they'll let me sneak in illgally and give me heath care and food stamps while I work and pay no taxes. That'll leave me lots of money for sex and dope.
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Old 12-22-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

What you can do and what you are allowed to do are rarely the same thing.
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Old 12-22-2007
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What you can do and what you are allowed to do are rarely the same thing.
I would call what you can do without fear of persecution (or prosecution) freedom. I do not know of a county that offers me more freedon than the USA.
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Old 12-22-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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What's the percentage of prisoners jailed under moral legislation, drugs?
sounds like you are for people doing drugs and doing more crime

moral laws BTW are all our laws...speed limits....punching people in their fucking mouths.....etc......all of that is based on the base norm , morals of the majority really

i am sure you are all for anarchy and shit since you are so american.. ...but in the end most of us dont see it that way
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Old 12-22-2007
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That's a new one on me! I am betting that only loyal party hacks get cellphones, and there's two IT spies monitoring each cellphone.
he is talking out his arse

the normal north korean doesnt even have fucking money for food so i doubt they are sporting fucking the JUKE phone and dancing in panmujon........
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Old 12-22-2007
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I would call what you can do without fear of persecution (or prosecution) freedom. I do not know of a county that offers me more freedon than the USA.
If that's the definition you seek light up a joint in any downtown of Alabama, Utah, etc. before you scratch the move to Holland.
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Old 12-22-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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he is talking out his arse

the normal north korean doesnt even have fucking money for food so i doubt they are sporting fucking the JUKE phone and dancing in panmujon........
Normal? Who said anything about the normal citizen? Does the normal American drive a new Lincoln town car like the FBI or is he/she generally depending on a rusty late '90s gas hog?
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If that's the definition you seek light up a joint in any downtown of Alabama, Utah, etc. before you scratch the move to Holland.
so the use of drugs is your definition of freedom????


you need to get high to be free?

wow
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sounds like you are for people doing drugs and doing more crime

moral laws BTW are all our laws...speed limits....punching people in their fucking mouths.....etc......all of that is based on the base norm , morals of the majority really

i am sure you are all for anarchy and shit since you are so american.. ...but in the end most of us dont see it that way
I know. You heed all government commands without question regardless of logic or the fact they serve no one but the government for control purposes and not obeying them results in a victimless crime. That's what you were trained to do for most of your adult life.
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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so the use of drugs is your definition of freedom????


you need to get high to be free?

wow
No, I require the option to get high, be it alcohol or weed, or do anything I wish to my body that doesn't harm anyone else without government restrictions. Seems like a harmless to others desire.
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I know. You heed all government commands without question regardless of logic or the fact they serve no one but the government for control purposes and not obeying them results in a victimless crime. That's what you were trained to do for most of your adult life.
And you question all things from the government cause whilst you are high it seems to be a good idea

the above of course is a total assumption just like your crap and actually probably isnt grounded in fact just like your little diatribe
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And you question all things from the government cause whilst you are high it seems to be a good idea

the above of course is a total assumption just like your crap and actually probably isnt grounded in fact just like your little diatribe
That's a strange opinion, were you not a member of the military for 20-years under a contract that required following every order given to you? Do you not feel that logically you provided unquestionable loyalty driven by the alternative, prison? Or were you able to rationalize ever order as being the right thing to do to facilitate your actions? I have yet to see perfection in any government but realize bringing logic into a discussion where minds are set in government stone is a fool's errand.
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