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Old 12-22-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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If that's the definition you seek light up a joint in any downtown of Alabama, Utah, etc. before you scratch the move to Holland.
I'd be more concerned whether they allowed me the use of deadly force to protect my life than if I could smoke a splim in public.
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Old 12-22-2007
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Self defence is not illegal anywhere. Did you believe that?
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Old 12-23-2007
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Self defence is not illegal anywhere. Did you believe that?

I‘ve just given the facts based on evidence from which the conclusion is obvious.
But it is normal for people, who refuse to compare themselves with outside world, to build unfounded impression about their superiority deceiving themselves and others about reality around them.
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Old 12-23-2007
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Self defence is not illegal anywhere. Did you believe that?
No, I do not.
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Old 12-23-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

Fascinating.

Perhaps the USA was once the most free Nation on Earth, but thanks to the Bush Crime Family and it's cronies doing everything they can to change it, it's quite debatable these days.

Spying on law-abiding citizens, torturing captives, robbing the treasury, and waging unprovoked wars based on lies and fabrications, are hardly the hallmarks of a "free society."
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Old 12-23-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

I read an article with an interview of a belorussian construction worker. He claimed Belorussia was the most free nation in the world, and he believed it, he wasn't joking.

-What other country allows you to take a leak by the roadside, huh?


It's a little bit the same with (some) americans and their guns. Americans are the most gun owning people on the planet, so they rationalize with a patriotic filter and see this as something positive and special, its gotta be freedom, right, if I didn't have that gun the thugs would be on me instantly, but now with this gun they aren't. Better keep my fingers crossed to keep the vampires away, never been bitten with my fingers crossed.

In reality it really just is a lot of guns, and it doesn't reduce crime at all. A "freedom" who doesn't make people more free.
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Old 12-23-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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I read an article with an interview of a belorussian construction worker. He claimed Belorussia was the most free nation in the world, and he believed it, he wasn't joking.

-What other country allows you to take a leak by the roadside, huh?


It's a little bit the same with (some) americans and their guns. Americans are the most gun owning people on the planet, so they rationalize with a patriotic filter and see this as something positive and special, its gotta be freedom, right, if I didn't have that gun the thugs would be on me instantly, but now with this gun they aren't. Better keep my fingers crossed to keep the vampires away, never been bitten with my fingers crossed.

In reality it really just is a lot of guns, and it doesn't reduce crime at all. A "freedom" who doesn't make people more free.
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Burglary victim told not to put up security 'in case it injures criminals'





A CHURCH Lawford woman recovering from a multi-thousand pound raid claims she was refused permission by police to install tighter security measures - in case it injured returning thieves.


As reported last week, the woman had antiques and personal items worth 'thousands' stolen from her home last month while she tended to her cancer-ridden brother.

Rugby Police investigated and gave the woman a crime-fighting manual advising on upgrading security.

However, when she enquired about installing a new security fence at her home, she was informed occupier liability rules meant she risked investigation herself if trespassers hurt themselves climbing over it.

http://www.rugbytoday.co.uk/news/Bur...-to.3608104.jp
Baaaaaa like a good sheep now, and make sure you don't make it at all difficult for the wolves to take what they please.

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Old 12-23-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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Better that than this:



Baaaaaa like a good sheep now, and make sure you don't make it at all difficult for the wolves to take what they please.

Pass, thanks.

Matt
The same type of liability fault applies in the US. If your property isn't posted with no trespassing signs (entering constituting a criminal offense as noted on the signs) and a would-be thief injures him/herself in gaining entrance it's on your nickel. In case people aren't aware of it, those no trespassing and 'security by' signs aren't there to make a would-be thief think twice about entering.
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Old 12-23-2007
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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Why hasn't Laca come back with this important info? I have to know what visa to apply for so I can check it out...........

Other countries don’t have such large number of prisoners. Isn’t that enough.
The reason is that other countries have some civilised criteria in locking up their citizens.
Unlike “civilised” USA majority of them don’t have capital punishment as well.
Also other countries don’t have the largest number of spaying public cameras per a citizen heads in the world like absolute Monarchist “Democracy” Brittan. After all Orwell was a highly inspired Englishman isn’t it.
Is it British Monarchy or democracy? What is that Monarchy or Orwell's democracy? Not freedom for sure but definitely the freedom of famous Anglo hypocrisy.
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Other countries don’t have such large number of prisoners. Isn’t that enough.
The reason is that other countries have some civilised criteria in locking up their citizens.
Unlike “civilised” USA majority of them don’t have capital punishment as well.
Also other countries don’t have the largest number of spaying public cameras per a citizen heads in the world like absolute Monarchist “Democracy” Brittan. After all Orwell was a highly inspired Englishman isn’t it.
Is it British Monarchy or democracy? What is that Monarchy or Orwell's democracy? Not freedom for sure but definitely the freedom of famous Anglo hypocrisy.
The USA is a nation of laws, laca. We lock up those who break these laws, it's that simple.

Please do this for me............list US laws that you consider unjust. These would be laws that limit the personal freedoms of US citizens. I suppose you might join Americano in thinking the use of drugs ought to be legalized, so skip over that and get to laws that truly limit our freedom.
The US has a large amount of prisoners simply because we have a huge number of lawbreakers. You cannot blame the US government for that, you must look to what our society has become.
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I'll make it easy for you, which of these offenses should we ignore?

AMERICAN CRIME STATS: Top Stats All Stats


View this page with: Just Stats Sources Definitions Both

Assaults 2,238,480 [1st of 57]
Car thefts 1,147,300 [1st of 55]
Drug offences 560.1 per 100,000 people [4th of 34]
Murders 12,658 [6th of 62]
Murders (per capita) 0.042802 per 1,000 people [24th of 62]
Murders with firearms 8,259 [4th of 32]
Murders with firearms (per capita) 0.0279271 per 1,000 people [8th of 32]
Rapes 89,110 [1st of 65]
Rapes (per capita) 0.301318 per 1,000 people [9th of 65]
Total crimes 23,677,800 [1st of 60
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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The USA is a nation of laws, laca. We lock up those who break these laws, it's that simple.

Please do this for me............list US laws that you consider unjust. These would be laws that limit the personal freedoms of US citizens. I suppose you might join Americano in thinking the use of drugs ought to be legalized, so skip over that and get to laws that truly limit our freedom.
The US has a large amount of prisoners simply because we have a huge number of lawbreakers. You cannot blame the US government for that, you must look to what our society has become.
But your low is made for the rich and priviliged white elite, isn,t it? Howe els explan that mayority of your locked citisens are poor blacks.
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Re: Do they want to teach us about that as well?

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Fascinating.

Perhaps the USA was once the most free Nation on Earth, but thanks to the Bush Crime Family and it's cronies doing everything they can to change it, it's quite debatable these days.

Spying on law-abiding citizens, torturing captives, robbing the treasury, and waging unprovoked wars based on lies and fabrications, are hardly the hallmarks of a "free society."
spying on law abiding citizens? uhm which ones?

robbing the treasury? when and where..?

torturing captives? how so?
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But your low is made for the rich and priviliged white elite, isn,t it? Howe els explan that mayority of your locked citisens are poor blacks.
So thats how you read a statistic backwards!
We lock up those who commit the crime, white, black, brown or yellow. Take a few minutes to surf the web and look at statistics on just who is commiting crime in America.
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But your low is made for the rich and priviliged white elite, isn,t it? Howe els explan that mayority of your locked citisens are poor blacks.
uhm lets see, becasue they are committing the majority of the crimes....
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