“Land Of The Freedom”, America now has, the largest number in the world, staggering 7 million jailed citizens.
“The bastion of the western democracy and freedom”, Grate Brittan is the most spied nation in the world with more cameras than the rest of Europe put together.
At the same time both of those countries constantly wants to teach others about individual freedoms, human rights etc.
What about Anglo - brotherhood ultimate hypocrisy? Do they want to teach us about that as well?

Here is some food for thought, Iaca. The reason for having so many jailed citizens may be that they start off with freedoms that many other countries don't offer their citizens. For instance, I am legally entitled to carry a concealed handgun, and do just fine with it. However, there are many that will abuse that right and end up in the slammer over it.
To simply make a "hypocricy" summary is an empty statement. Those who are incarcerate are there for good reasons, none of which are because we gave them too much or too little freedom.

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What's the percentage of prisoners jailed under moral legislation, drugs?

How is it that drugs laws are based on moral legislation?

And, if they are, should laws be reinvestigated because they may be based on morals?

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In my opinion, that's not exactly true. There are quite a lot of people serving rather harsh prison sentences for minor drug offenses. I don't think there's any good reason for them to be there.

This is not an endorsement of laca's post at all, though.

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Victimless crime, as was alcohol consumption during prohibition.

Way too far out of hand. No sane politician is going to suggest striking down drug laws as he/she might be pointed at as the cause of little Jimmy or Anne potentially doing drugs because they're legal. Even though kids can and do obtain illegal drugs far easier than alcohol.

Laca, your "home" nation, Cuba (not that I believe for even a second that you've ever been there), imprisons people for owning books like the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

So don't even start with your pious lecturing about people bling locked up here.

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Agreed, our judicial system somtimes fails to work. I also remember a recent case of a man that sexually assaulted/molested a toddler for a span of four years and was given probation.

I believe Laca wants to put forth the premise that we aren't as free as we claim we are. I don't get his point???? What is it, let people do just about anything thay want , and when they commit a crime, just overlook it?????

Lets ask Laca about that "other country" that offers up personal freedoms greater than those we enjoy here in the USA.

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Is that the same forum rule that prevents American posters from criticizing other nations?

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Oh, I fully agree Laca's point is nonsensical.

Even if someone did want to make an argument about Britain and the US not being free, pointing out the number of incarcerations and security cameras is a terrible way to go about it.

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There is, of course, no such forum rule.



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Hello my "North Korean" friend. Millions of North Koreans are locked up in forced labor camps as political undesirables. The North Koreans smart enough to toe Kim's line get spied upon at a level that makes "1984" look laid-back. So, yeah, there's plenty we could teach the North Koreans about freedom and democracy. Since you are posting on the internet, you're not a North Korean anyway, because they don't even get radios with dials, much less internet access, you phony.

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Don't startle him, Joe - it's almost full!

Actually cell phones are now becoming popular in N. Korea and many of the elites have Internet access (€2/minute), all provided by China.