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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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yeah, forget the concepts of citizenship and national sovereignty.

You know, you are right erik. I think think you Dutch are too stupid to run your own country, so I want to be able to vote in your elections.
Right on, I think Europe is pretty stupid, so I demand vote in their elections. The great thing about the US is we solve our own problems, we dont wait for other countries to do it.
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yeah, forget the concepts of citizenship and national sovereignty.

You know, you are right erik. I think think you Dutch are too stupid to run your own country, so I want to be able to vote in your elections.
I wasn't entirely serious ofcourse, but it is the way I feel.

If you were interested in Dutch politics, but you couldnt vote, I'd feel sorry for you.
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I wasn't entirely serious ofcourse, but it is the way I feel.

If you were interested in Dutch politics, but you couldnt vote, I'd feel sorry for you.
Neither was I, at least in the sense that I do not think the Dutch are to stupid to run their own country. Anyways, my point was that only Americans should be allowed to vote in American elections. Just like the Dutch should be the only people allowed to vote in Dutch elections.
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This is pretty funny, and I think it speaks for itself. They dont seem to realize that they are not forced by us into anything. They choose to take our money. No doubt they wish for one world global govt.



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That would be just fantastic. I wonder who'd they'd vote for...

During college, I was a member of a relatively conservative organization on campus that numbered 150+ members. The resident "homo" organization numbered 25 members, tops. You'd never know about the representation disparity, though, by the relative amounts of press each group got (in the university lefty rag).

Anywho, we jokingly kicked around the idea of "joining" the "homo" group en masse (say, tripling their membership), establishing voting rights by their own rules (pay dues or whatever), and then, at the first opportunity, putting forth a motion on the floor to disband the organization. All those in favor? AYE!

Never got around to it...meh.

Using superior numbers, I'd bet the Euro's would get a national referendum put on our ballot to undo stuff like the Alaska purchase, the Louisiana Purchase, etc... What fun that would be. Absolutely madness. Soccer, er, "futbol" the national sport. Cheese the national food. Metric chaos. Cats and dogs living together shit.
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We should be able to join the "World" Series though.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

The idea of voting in another country’s elections is obviously stupid. However, I can kinda understand where the author is coming from - America has immense global influence (which probably isn't as immense as it used to be), but the rest of the globe has to just sit back and take whatever we dish out. It must be frustrating for them. Still a stupid idea, though.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

The article was only using a tongue-in-cheek remark there. I don't consider it a serious suggestion. Rather, the whole thing simply expressed a view how important and interconnected US and European relations are on economics, security, etc., and how important the choice of POTUS affects it and, impliedly, that Americans ought to be similarly aware of it when considering choices.
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We should be able to join the "World" Series though.
I would submit to you that our professional baseball players and their teams - whether [mostly] U.S.-based or not - are far more diverse and representative of the "world" than any "world" hockey competition or league of which you can think.

So there.
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We should be able to join the "World" Series though.
Well, given the chance, any European team would be the laughing stock of the spectators...
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Indeed.

I have no problem with globalization. As long as the whole world becomes America and subject to the American constitution that is.
First, you would have to do away with that phony, leftish idea of a republican form of government.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

Hmm - I don't know, might be a good thing - I mean you can't have taxation without representation - well you can't have representation without taxation!
So - if they want to pay the United States the same taxes as we do - I'm cool.
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First, you would have to do away with that phony, leftish idea of a republican form of government.
for? a Kaiser?
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The article was only using a tongue-in-cheek remark there. I don't consider it a serious suggestion. Rather, the whole thing simply expressed a view how important and interconnected US and European relations are on economics, security, etc., and how important the choice of POTUS affects it and, impliedly, that Americans ought to be similarly aware of it when considering choices.
I dont think thats the case at all. I think it was selfishly motivated, as another repsondent indicated. They think we are stupid, and need to make the decision for us, which is ironic as they claim they are being impacted without a say. So their solution is to enforce their will on us, regardless of the will of the people who actually live here.
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for? a Kaiser?
Yes, if the fifty States would become fifty kingdoms, the Head of the Union could be an Emperor.
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Would you be ok with Americans being able to vote in German national elections, or perhaps EU votes?
Most Americans don't even vote in their own elections.

Of course not, and nobody seriously demands to vote in a foreign country. That's ridiculous. It's just a rhetorical question. O'Sullivan Bere's and jefe's comments are dead on. It expresses the hope of probably most people in the world that Americans elect a better President next time, because this decision also affects many people around the world .... and probably often even more than it affects the average American. But obviously us foreigners only can write silly articles and forum posts and hope for the best.
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