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Old 01-04-2008
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

If nationals of other countries wish to vote in U.S. elections, then all they have to do is fill all the legal criteria for being eligible voters in the United States.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

All they'd do is vote for the candidate that was big on "Dragon Defense" and "Outing Witchery".
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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The idea of voting in another country’s elections is obviously stupid. However, I can kinda understand where the author is coming from - America has immense global influence (which probably isn't as immense as it used to be), but the rest of the globe has to just sit back and take whatever we dish out. It must be frustrating for them. Still a stupid idea, though.
Subject to reducto ad absurdum. From a philosophical standpoint, many decisions made by all countries effect all other countries. Any decision regarding pollution, trade, etc. By this logic (not yours - the article's), everyone ought to be able to vote in any election for any reason.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

But how long before the US petitions for membership in the EU?
Then we'd all be voting together for something............
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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Subject to reducto ad absurdum. From a philosophical standpoint, many decisions made by all countries effect all other countries. Any decision regarding pollution, trade, etc. By this logic (not yours - the article's), everyone ought to be able to vote in any election for any reason.
True, but as a so-called 'superpower', the U.S. is viewed as having a larger global effect than most other countries. That's still no excuse to allow non-citizens to vote in the U.S., though. What a silly notion.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

If certain politicians have their way then certain foreigners (illegal immigrants) will be allowed to vote in US elections.
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What? The opinion that the world should be allowed to vote for the US President?
If you believe in democracy - yes.

The US is the most pwerful nation on the globe and it has had a major impact on global security in recent years, it also has major impacts on the world economy (the sub prime crisis is having flow on effects all around the globe simply because of dodgy US lnding practices), with approx 5% of the world's population it produces 25% of Greenhaouse gasses - and the evidence is that this is going to affect all of us ...

Yet you have only 300 million being eligible to vote for a government whose decisions affect 6 billion of us.

so yes, if you believe in democracy - then we should all be able to vote.

And if you don't agree with me, then you don't really believe in democracy - do you?
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

I don’t advocate that non-Americans should be able to vote in U.S. elections, but those Americans here who are scoffing at the idea should perhaps think about how non-Americans feel about the “leader of the free world” title bestowed on the U.S. President. The U.S. has arrogated this role, so it’s natural that non-Americans now seek to have a say in who fulfils the role.

Also, it’s somewhat disingenuous for Americans to take exception to the idea of non-Americans voting in their elections, given that the U.S. has used force and other means to influence the political process in nations around the world.

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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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I don’t advocate that non-Americans should be able to vote in U.S. elections, but those Americans here who are scoffing at the idea should perhaps think about how non-Americans feel about the “leader of the free world” title bestowed on the U.S. President. The U.S. has arrogated this role, so it’s natural that non-Americans now seek to have a say in who fulfils the role.

Also, it’s somewhat disingenuous for Americans to take exception to the idea of non-Americans voting in their elections, given that the U.S. has used force and other means to influence the political process in nations around the world.

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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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I don’t advocate that non-Americans should be able to vote in U.S. elections, but those Americans here who are scoffing at the idea should perhaps think about how non-Americans feel about the “leader of the free world” title bestowed on the U.S. President. The U.S. has arrogated this role, so it’s natural that non-Americans now seek to have a say in who fulfils the role.

Also, it’s somewhat disingenuous for Americans to take exception to the idea of non-Americans voting in their elections, given that the U.S. has used force and other means to influence the political process in nations around the world.

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That force being recognized as long-term fiscally unsustainable, while we (US) continue generating ill-will and inviting retaliation for our self-serving actions. The rest of the world may be unable to vote in our elections, but their degree of control will make itself known as we continue down our road of fiscal irresponsibility and they purchase our assets at fire sale prices.
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If you believe in democracy - yes.

The US is the most pwerful nation on the globe and it has had a major impact on global security in recent years, it also has major impacts on the world economy (the sub prime crisis is having flow on effects all around the globe simply because of dodgy US lnding practices), with approx 5% of the world's population it produces 25% of Greenhaouse gasses - and the evidence is that this is going to affect all of us ...

Yet you have only 300 million being eligible to vote for a government whose decisions affect 6 billion of us.

so yes, if you believe in democracy - then we should all be able to vote.

And if you don't agree with me, then you don't really believe in democracy - do you?
What do you count as democracy? You do believe that democracy can have many forms, not only that which is favoured by you, personally, do you?

If you claim that one does not believe in democracy, because one does not believe people in other countries should be able to vote in one's own country, you must believe that the vast majority of people in all democratic countries do not believe in democracy.

You live in Australia, don't you? Do you think that you should be able to vote in elections to other Australian state's legislatures, since they can affect your home state? Would you like to be able to vote in the election to the town council of your neighbour town?

Do you think Americans should be eligible to vote in Australian elections?
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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What do you count as democracy? You do believe that democracy can have many forms, not only that which is favoured by you, personally, do you?

If you claim that one does not believe in democracy, because one does not believe people in other countries should be able to vote in one's own country, you must believe that the vast majority of people in all democratic countries do not believe in democracy.

You live in Australia, don't you? Do you think that you should be able to vote in elections to other Australian state's legislatures, since they can affect your home state? Would you like to be able to vote in the election to the town council of your neighbour town?

Do you think Americans should be eligible to vote in Australian elections?
LOL - forgot smiley.

my comment was as tongue in cheek as the article referred to in the OP obviously was.

The US DOES influence the rest of us - and because of the disgustingly bad decisions made by the US govt in recent years - US citizens should be reminded of this.

If I were to believe that we should all be voting in US elections, then I would also be arguing for Pacific Islanders and much of South East Asia to be voting in OUR elections too.
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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

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LOL - forgot smiley.

my comment was as tongue in cheek as the article referred to in the OP obviously was.

The US DOES influence the rest of us - and because of the disgustingly bad decisions made by the US govt in recent years - US citizens should be reminded of this.

If I were to believe that we should all be voting in US elections, then I would also be arguing for Pacific Islanders and much of South East Asia to be voting in OUR elections too.
OK, it is not always easy to detect irony in written words.
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This is pretty funny, and I think it speaks for itself. They dont seem to realize that they are not forced by us into anything. They choose to take our money. No doubt they wish for one world global govt.



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Re: Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections

Well considering the average American, and George Dubyah bein elected twice in a row...do you think its too ridiculous to suggest that european liberals get a say in what happens in Washington?

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Hahaha just playing. Most europeans are stupid too.
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