I agree ... but electing Bush ... two times in a row ... that one is tough to beat.

Naaah, over here, he could have been elected three times or more...

...and for terms of five years too!

...and over here, Howard was elected four times!

Tethys

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Why do we need to vote...

We just put together a huge fund together.. Invest it into a nice pro Europe thinktank. Hire some lobbists... Buy a TV, Newspapers and Radio stations and set the agenda...

Threaten any congressman or sentor who doesn't vote our way that we will fund their competitor in the next election...

Put our own Media Slant on everything... Like US farmers should pay EU farmers for just about anything... Same with industry... We could charge the Chinese and Russians to get in on the action...

The Presidential elections should be easy to slant... Like continious attacks on any candidate that disagrees with us... Just attack him on social issues like gun lobby (he is either paid off by one side or another), Abortion(baby killer or Jesus child, it doesn't matter).... Some serious investigation using PI, secret service (our own and yours to dig shit up, if that doesn't work just make it up.)

It's the American way... But I think another country in the world has already beaten us to this Idea....

Bah, that scenario won't worry anyone.

It would involve Europe doing something apart from:

1. Sitting on the sidelines bitching, or
2. Starting world wars



Matt

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Europeans,

Already have some pretty powerful lobby groups. Ireland I know puts the effort in, I am sure all the others do too.

American Chamber of Commerce Ireland

It is pretty innocent but Israel has lead the world in internal lobbing in the US.

I was being a bit facetious there.



Matt

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You guys do realize there is no Federal right for even US citizens to vote for the President right? Originally we were not allowed to vote for our Senators either. We are not, nor were ever meant to be a democracy. Our country was founded on the principle that mob rule is bad.

We arent meant to be a direct democracy, but we are a democracy, just a representative one. Youre right though, that there is not federal right to vote, but plenty of state rights to vote. I would be happy to change floridas system so that the legislature choose senators, and that the people choose reps, although the eligibility to vote would be more restricted in order to ensure that only the responsible vote.

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http://www.fairtax.org

Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

I guess I meant to use Democracy with a capital "D." We are a republic, which is a type of indirect democracy. The word Democracy with capital or lowercase "D" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution. It bothers me when so many politicians keep saying we are a Democracy and the people should directly decide every issue. We elect learned citizens to make most of those decisions.

Wow...you could have made that same post in, say, 1984 RE: Reagan policies and Japan "buying up America".

You would have been wrong then and you are wrong now.

I really do not understand this deep seated pessimism about our country and its prospects.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

I dont know really, what is there to talk about ?
Just nuke the yanks. No need for any elections, and they automatically stop causing further trouble for the rest of the world. There, problem solved in one easy step.

you read it here folks....

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Success is measured in blood; yours or your enemy's.

That mindset resulted in, um, the U.S.S.R. ending up in the dustbin of history.

Hate to see that happen to Russia, too.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

A Dutch public broadcaster published this compass for the US election (its in english too).

Electoral Compass USA