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Old 01-24-2008
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Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

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ROME, Jan 25 (Reuters) - Italy's president will hold crisis talks with political leaders on Friday to see whether he can avoid calling snap elections after a no confidence vote forced Prime Minister Romano Prodi's government to resign.
Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits | Markets | Bonds News | Reuters

Is Italy stable?

Prodi's gov stayed in power for just 20 months, he had a huge coalition from communist to catholic...

What I don't understand is that the senate has to vote some kind like every week to see if Prodi stays in power or not... (so you just need to piss off one of your coalition member, and you loose your majority, that's what basically happened...)

Looks like Italy needs a constitutional reform ASAP...
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

I read this was his 52th or something vote of confidence.

The weird thing is I only heard positive things about this man. 'Better than Berlusconi'.

Was he voted out simply for political reasons? I think that's just stupid considering Italy has problems to solve. Better to have a large coalition governement which is not exactly what you want than a situation with no workable majority.

What will happen now? New elections or only a new PM? Is this gonna be like Timoshenko who got voted out just to get voted in again a day later?

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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

What is scary, is that the only alternative in the opposition is: Berlusconi...

Berlusconi has been in power in Italy, and didn't do any reforms, he totally failed, so why giving him another chance? Also add the fact that he mixes up his own interest and the interest of Italians...

Italians don't deserve Berlusconi they deserve way better
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

Any idea what's happening now?
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

According to the article, " The president's only other option is to see whether there is enough support for an interim government, whose main task would be to change the voting rules before an election is held." Also, "While that prospect is favoured by Prodi's Democratic Party and even by some in the opposition, many small parties on both sides of the political divide fear that a reform of the electoral law would reduce their weight in future coalitions." And, " Many Italians hope for electoral reform to cure chronic instability, illustrated by the fact that Prodi's 20-month spell in power was the seventh longest government in post-war Italy." Therefore, if a change in voting rules is to happen, then the Italians will have to decide what is more important to them either reduced weight in future coalitions of "many small parties" or the potential stability of any "reform of the electoral law."
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

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What is scary, is that the only alternative in the opposition is: Berlusconi...

Berlusconi has been in power in Italy, and didn't do any reforms, he totally failed, so why giving him another chance? Also add the fact that he mixes up his own interest and the interest of Italians...

Italians don't deserve Berlusconi they deserve way better
Guess who's back....
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silvio sivlio silvio!!!!!
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

I can't find much i can link to right now unfortunately but his opponent has conceded defeat, i'll put some more information as it trickles down the wires.
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

Wow, so much reaction from everyone!

You'd think after losing his status as head of Italy and then health problems and then just as recemtly as January his media empire facing troubles and AC in 11th place in Seria A and out the CL (looking unlikely to qualify for next season and the exit of the king himself, Paulo) that Silvio would look to retire from politics and sell some of his stock.

Maybe sack Ancellotti? Move to Florida to retire?

No no, this is Silvio....(and he has a slightly different way of doing things).

So he makes 30 to 100 million Euro's available for Carlo in the summer transfer winow and looks to sign Ronaldinhio and take back Sheva (possibly sign Matteratzi and Kaladze to replace Maldini), sack his doctors, give Carlo a new contract, run for Premier and win!

Quite a turn around and come back on all fronts (the Rai network has managed to get rid of the cloud over its head) and become a powerhouse player in Europe once again. Congratulations to him.

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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

Let's see now, he said during the campaign that he won't let Alitalia to be in the hands of a foreign company, now that he is president again, he says that he can see Alitalia being in the hands of a foreign company And that's how Silvio is working, a huge amount of lies during the campaign to get himself elected, once there, the same shit as before Poor Italians :/

I hope he can really reforms Italy, but I have huge doubt, he already failed in the past... But once again he's going to mix up his own interest and the interest of Italy... :/
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

Hey...look, a, a err, a reponse!!!

The thing is Italy is not in crisis, things are tough with the economy but they were struggling long before the rest of us were looking at a global crunch.

Silvio still oversaw a lot of de-regulation, he was involved in the match fixing scandal, Rai were being investigated and he was looking at corruption charges.

But he is a fighter, he is a strong leader. Alitalia has seen a downturn for years (they at one point used to sponsor Gazetta Fottball Italia) and maybe allowing them to receive investment from foreign conglomerates migh help them? what's better, that, or letting them go belly up? He unfortunately had to play to the ultra nationalistic facists in his base during the election build up but i think he is doing the right thing.
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He unfortunately had to play to the ultra nationalistic facists in his base during the election build up but i think he is doing the right thing.
How can it be the right thing?
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

No he's doing the right thing by not cowtowing to them now and standing by his principles. They may want some White Italian dominance squad but that's still the wrong thing to do. Alitalia needs some injection of revenue from somewhere or its headed for bankrupcy.

This may look like a flip flop on Silvio's part but he had no choice, also he did say it would be foreign investment and not ownership, which is what he had said in the campaign too.
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

Thanks for the responses Anselme?

As an off shoot what do you think the empire that Murdoch has? Its widely believed and i agree to that extent that the only person who can compete with him in a single country is Silvio in Italy....thoughts?
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Re: Italy seeks way out of crisis after Prodi quits

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Thanks for the responses Anselme?

As an off shoot what do you think the empire that Murdoch has? Its widely believed and i agree to that extent that the only person who can compete with him in a single country is Silvio in Italy....thoughts?
Thoughts I have heard from Italians? There is quite an opposition against the new Il Duce, Berlusconi.
-Problem is that opposition can't get along with eachothers either.

Silvio can dictate Italian media and therefore lowers democratical bearings of Italy. He is also neck-deep in corruption which he has declared to destroy.
He is a loudmouth, a bully with all the cards in his hands.

We will expect to see glorification of every action Berlusconi does, and no a word from the failures or the corruption in Italian medias.

-Yet another good reason why I feel that united Europe is not just a farcry, but a complete fairytale. European nations have only one thing in common; the place they are located.
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