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Hezbollah's most wanted commander killed in Syria bomb

well, can't say I am sorry......he certainly did his damage.....and he got blowed up...karma at work I'd say....



Hezbollah's most wanted commander killed in Syria bomb By Tom Perry and Laila Bassam
Wed Feb 13, 9:53 AM ET



BEIRUT (Reuters) - Senior Hezbollah commander Imad Moughniyah, on the United States' most wanted list for attacks on Israeli and Western targets, has been killed by a bomb attack in Damascus, the Lebanese group said on Wednesday.


Hezbollah accused Israel of assassinating Moughniyah, who was head of the Hezbollah security network during Lebanon's 1975-90 civil war, by planting a bomb in his car. Iran also blamed Israel and condemned the attack as an act of "state terrorism."

In Gaza, Hamas Islamists called for the Arab world to unite against Israel and Iran condemned it

Israel denied any involvement in the killing, seen as a major blow to Syrian- and Iranian-backed Hezbollah that fought a 34-day war with Israel in 2006.

Moughniyah, 45, was killed late on Tuesday. He had long been on a list of foreigners Israel wanted to kill or capture and the United States had offered a $5 million reward for his capture.

"His killing is a huge blow to Hezbollah. It is very indicative," Magnus Ranstorp, terrorism expert at the Swedish National Defence College, told Reuters.

Moughniyah was implicated in the 1983 bombings of the U.S. embassy and U.S. Marine and French peacekeeping barracks in Beirut, which killed over 350 people, as well as the 1992 bombing of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires and the kidnapping of Westerners in Lebanon in the 1980s.

The United States indicted him for his role in planning and participating in the June 14, 1985, hijacking of a U.S. TWA airliner and the killing of an American passenger.

"For the U.S. administration Imad was the most wanted terrorist before Osama Bin Laden appeared," Ranstorp said. "For many years, many different teams were looking for him, trying to exact the price for the catalogue of attacks he allegedly carried out."

Hezbollah, a strong political and military force in Lebanon, announced the assassination and called followers to his funeral on Thursday.

"After a life full of jihad, sacrifices and accomplishments ... Haj Imad Moughniyah ... died a martyr at the hands of the Israeli Zionists," said Hezbollah.

The 2006 war with Israel was triggered by a Hezbollah cross-border raid in which two Israeli soldiers were captured. According to Israeli intelligence assessments, Moughniyah was involved in masterminding the operation.

Hezbollah's most wanted commander killed in Syria bomb - Yahoo! News


"jihad, sacrifices and accomplishments " uhm sacrifcies and accomplishments? What "sacrifices? he didn't martyr himself....he had other people do it...
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Good news. But is Israel involved in car bombings now?
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Good news. But is Israel involved in car bombings now?
I don't know. Can you tell us? (include links please).
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I don't know. Can you tell us? (include links please).
Hezbollah accused Israel of assassinating Moughniyah, who was head of the Hezbollah security network during Lebanon's 1975-90 civil war, by planting a bomb in his car. Iran also blamed Israel and condemned the attack as an act of "state terrorism."


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If whoever killed him complains about his methods, they have some soul searching to do.
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Haven't heard anything about this. Good news for a lot of people.
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Re: Hezbollah's most wanted commander killed in Syria bomb

They report this like it's some kind of victory.

Come on, people. This doesn't change anything. Why do we continue to be the stupid side? They've already got another guy to fill that position already and we'll soon find out who that is.

It's like whack-a-mole with these people; they keep getting replaced by the next one in line. It's like if Bin Laden had killed Bush. Big deal, then they have to deal with Cheney. It's the same shit.

We have to stop seeing these killings through the rose-tinted glasses of "elimination of bad guys" so much as "promotion" of another.

All of these problems will get better when the foreign policy changes, until then it doesn't matter who gets eliminated on the FBI's Most Wanted because another guy with a big long funny name and a long beard will replace the one we just got.
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Re: Hezbollah's most wanted commander killed in Syria bomb

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well, can't say I am sorry......he certainly did his damage.....and he got blowed up...karma at work I'd say....
Is that an endorsement of assassination ?

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If whoever killed him complains about his methods, they have some soul searching to do.
Similarly, when the inevitable bleating about "Zionists" and assassinations begins, those decrying the method of his death will need to examine their souls a bit as well.

At this point, apart from the pro-forma blaming of Israel, I haven't seen anything indicating who killed the guy.

Could be a rival faction - there's certainly been plenty of inter-league killing among the various factions in the past.

Or, it could have been Israel.

Personally, I'll reserve judgment until some evidence becomes available.

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They report this like it's some kind of victory.

Come on, people. This doesn't change anything. Why do we continue to be the stupid side? They've already got another guy to fill that position already and we'll soon find out who that is.

It's like whack-a-mole with these people; they keep getting replaced by the next one in line. It's like if Bin Laden had killed Bush. Big deal, then they have to deal with Cheney. It's the same shit.

We have to stop seeing these killings through the rose-tinted glasses of "elimination of bad guys" so much as "promotion" of another.

All of these problems will get better when the foreign policy changes, until then it doesn't matter who gets eliminated on the FBI's Most Wanted because another guy with a big long funny name and a long beard will replace the one we just got.
Bah, the police should stop arresting serial killers, then, because another one will just pop up?

Silly.

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BEIRUT - The Lebanese resistance movement Hizbullah on Wednesday, February 13, accused Israel of assassinating its military commander Imad Mughnieh in a blast in the Syrian capital Damascus a day earlier.

"After a life full of jihad, sacrifices and accomplishments…Haj Imad Mughnieh died a martyr at the hands of the Israeli Zionists," Hizbullah said in a statement cited by Reuters.

"He has been a target of the Zionists for 20 years."



Dany Yatom, a former Mossad chief, described the assassination as "a success for the intelligence community."

Israel radio and television interrupted normal programming to announce his death.

Mughnieh's brother was killed in a similar attack in Beirut in 1994, blamed on Israel's Mossad. Reports at the time suggested he was the real target.

Mughnieh has been on Washington's terror list for years with a $25 million bounty on his head for his suspected role in attacks against American and Israeli targets.

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A bounty ? Does that mean that the US pays to have people assassinated ? Shit, no wonder it ain't safe to be an American overseas.

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If martyrdom is such a worthy aspiration, why do these assholes send others to do it while they slink about like vermin in caves?

One has to wonder.

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A bounty ? Does that mean that the US pays to have people assassinated ? Shit, no wonder it ain't safe to be an American overseas.
No, it means there was a reward for his capture.



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Mughnieh, 45, ranked second only to Osama bin Laden on Washingon’s most-wanted list, was accused of killing more Americans than any other militant before the attacks of September 11, 2001, earning him a $25 million (£13 million) bounty for his capture and the undying enmity of the US and Israel.

Terrorist mastermind with $25m price on his head, Imad Mughnieh, dies in car blast - Times Online
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The guy was a terrorist, involved in the cowardly murder of an unarmed man.



Not surprising he was celebrated in Hezbollah, eh?
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