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Old 03-02-2008
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Re: Kosovo- Independence....why? why not?

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They were criminals during a war that was 60 years ago and only to the opposing side. As that accounts for a couple of generations, I think it's a bit harsh to continue to call them criminals. Currently, the ethnic Albanians (as opposed to Albanian nationals) are fighting Serbs just as brutally as the Serbs are fighting back. Until they can get over some old history, neither side seems to have much hope.
Well, calling the Albanians criminals is actually racist.

And if we leave history aside, we have a territory that is inhabited by an Albanian majority who are strictly opposed to Belgrade. Kosovo itself for years is not under Serbian control.
So, as things are now, the independence of this territory is - under the given circumstances - without a satisfying alternative.
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Re: Kosovo- Independence....why? why not?

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Well, calling the Albanians criminals is actually racist.

And if we leave history aside, we have a territory that is inhabited by an Albanian majority who are strictly opposed to Belgrade. Kosovo itself for years is not under Serbian control.
So, as things are now, the independence of this territory is - under the given circumstances - without a satisfying alternative.
Well, than Frenches should give the land to rebellious immigrants.
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Well, than Frenches should give the land to rebellious immigrants.
You are a real expert on this topic, right?
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Well, calling the Albanians criminals is actually racist.
Well, Hashim Tachi is a former drug-dealer.
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Well, Hashim Tachi is a former drug-dealer.
I know what he is. But you would find more severe violations of law by serbian politicians - if you would really care about this area.

But this wouldn't fit in your extremely neutral explanatory model, would it? Just blame the Albanians for everything .
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Well, than Frenches should give the land to rebellious immigrants.
That's actually a fair point. France has a huge number of people who have a different language, culture and religion. Many do not feel French and they face much discrimination, both official and unofficial. Why shouldn't they have their own state?
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That's actually a fair point. France has a huge number of people who have a different language, culture and religion. Many do not feel French and they face much discrimination, both official and unofficial. Why shouldn't they have their own state?
No, it is not. The Albanians are no immigrants.
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No, it is not. The Albanians are no immigrants.
Well, some of them are. There has been migration from Albania to Kosovo. Kosovo may have been the least developed part of Serbia, but was more developed than Albania. It made sense from an economic perspective to move from Albania to Kosovo, and the fact that people who already lived in Kosovo spoke Albanian made the migration easier.
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And if we leave history aside, we have a territory that is inhabited by an Albanian majority who are strictly opposed to Belgrade. Kosovo itself for years is not under Serbian control.
So, as things are now, the independence of this territory is - under the given circumstances - without a satisfying alternative.
Hurt feelings among Serbs aside, the Serbs are actually better off without Kosovo. They lose some territory of historic significance to them, but this is arguably the least developed part of their country which is therefore an economic burden to Serbia. They also lose a large ethnic minority that is opposed to the Serb majority ruling them.

There are some parts of present day Kosovo along the border to (the remaining part of) Serbia where the inhabitants are predominantly Serbs. If the population of these areas wish to belong to Serbia rather than Kosovo, I believe the national border should be ajusted accordingly.
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There are some parts of present day Kosovo along the border to (the remaining part of) Serbia where the inhabitants are predominantly Serbs. If the population of these areas wish to belong to Serbia rather than Kosovo, I believe the national border should be ajusted accordingly.
I'm just curious - are you ready personally risk your life, go to Prishtina and say to Albanians about border correction, about that they should refuse hold Mitrovica?
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I'm just curious - are you ready personally risk your life, go to Prishtina and say to Albanians about border correction, about that they should refuse hold Mitrovica?
Why do you ask?
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No, it is not. The Albanians are no immigrants.
Neither are the Arabs in France. They, at least the younger ones, were born there and have lives there all their lives. My point still stands.
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Re: Kosovo- Independence....why? why not?

That's why. Have a look what they are doing to the innocent people with American help:
America and Albanian KLA killing Kosovo Serbs and selling their organs. Isn't it terrible worst then Iraq, never end this criminal behaviour.
Oh God.

B92 - News - Crime & War crimes - "KLA sold Kosovo Serb organs in Albania"

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Re: Kosovo- Independence....why? why not?

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That's why. Have a look what they are doing to the innocent people with American help:
America and Albanian KLA killing Kosovo Serbs and selling their organs. Isn't it terrible worst then Iraq, never end this criminal behaviour.
Oh God.

B92 - News - Crime & War crimes - "KLA sold Kosovo Serb organs in Albania"
Pray tell your "American connection?"
Your dangerously close to intellectual dishonesty
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Pray tell your "American connection?"
Your dangerously close to intellectual dishonesty
Be careful with your accusations. Everyone knows who bombarded and killed innocent Serbian Christians and everyone knows who is the biggest KLA supporter in their everyday crimes against innocent Kosovo Serbian children population, everyone knows who helped Albanian drug dealers to expel 300000 innocent Serbs from Kosovo CIA and Albanian Mafia, the whole free world know that.
One day in front of Gods face you will be accounted for that as well as for killed by poisoning 1 million Innocent Vietnamese and Iraqi children. The clock started clicking now.
I, God and all those innocent lives demand apology instantly? NOW.
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