As I said just cut billion dollars contracts with them, the barbarians can only understand language of force.
Now reasonable people in Germany start understanding that China is not little Serbia that can be raped as western barbarians want.

Baiting the Dragon: German Business Warns of Pushing China too Far - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

BAITING THE DRAGON
German Business Warns of Pushing China too Far

German business leaders are warning that Western criticism of China's policy in Tibet could have nasty repercussions. With over 200,000 jobs in Germany directly dependent on exports to the Asian powerhouse economy, industry leaders argue that calm dialogue is preferrable to calls for boycotts and sanctions.

Containers awaiting export in Hamburg's port. In 2007 exports to China accounted for 7 percent of all of Germany's exports.
As calls increase for a boycott of the Beijing Olympic Games ceremonies and sanctions against China, German business leaders are starting to worry about the possible effect on their business dealings in China.

Protests in many European cities against China's crackdown in Tibet a month ago and German Chancellor Angela Merkel's insistence that she would be prepared to meet with the Dalai Lama again (more...) have given German industry leaders the jitters; they worry that Beijing may start having second thoughts about doing business with German companies.

On Friday, the head of the Association of German Chambers of Industry and Commerce (DIHK), Martin Wansleben, warned that although no contracts had been cancelled yet, the mood was extremely tense. Any further escalation in the protests from Europe against China's human rights records could have serious consequences, he told the regional newspaper Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung.

Wansleben said that "the discussions in Europe about anti-Chinese boycotts is just feeding" calls in China for boycotts of Western goods. He called for a calm discussion with China, particularly as German industry is interested in a stable and long-term relationship with its most important trading partner in Asia.

The stakes are indeed high. Over 200,000 jobs in Germany are directly dependent on exports to China. In 2007, German products worth €55 billion were exported to China, accounting for 7 percent of German exports. There are more than 3,000 Germany companies investing in China, to the tune of €1.5 billion.

The fact that Chancellor Merkel has been vocal in highlighting China's human rights record and that she decided to meet with the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama last September, has served to cool political relations between Berlin and Beijing recently. Her stance has met with some criticism from within her own coalition government, particularly from her foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, with critics saying she is risking damaging German interests. Nevertheless, Merkel said last weekend that she would be prepared to meet the Dalai Lama again.

German industry is now clearly fearful of how China will react to the increased volume of criticism from the West (more...). Already on Monday, Jürgen Hambrecht, CEO of the chemical giant BASF, warned that calls for boycotting the Olympic Games and sanctions may hurt the German economy. Speaking as chairman of the APA group of German companies with ties to the Asia-Pacific region, Hambrecht told the Handelsblatt newspaper that restricting business ties with China "would be a painful blow to the German economy -- and therefore to all of us -- in an important growth market."

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Speaking after the APA held an extraordinary meeting to discuss the issue, he said there was a risk that China might start to give contracts for big projects to firms from less critical countries. And there was also concern that the image of German products, which have been extremely popular with Chinese consumers, could be tarnished.

His fears may turn out to be well-founded. The Olympic torch protests in Paris and other Western cities infuriated many Chinese people. Now Internet users in the country have started calling for a boycott (more...) against the French supermarket chain Carrefour and products from France such as Peugeot cars and L'Oreal cosmetics.

So? Again? Which one? The criminals?

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More than only lost money. Cheap can sometimes be very expensive.

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That's not true and it's an impertinence to say this in such a way. Unbelievable. Our Chancellor spoke with the Dalai Lama and our chancellor can speak with everyone in the whole world she likes to speak. But China decided that this is a problem for China - and so it is now a problem for China. It's not a problem of Germany.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Greedy people afraid of the ethic values of their own employees. I don't care if our trade relation with China are damaged because we do not abstain from giving them good advice. Business was bitching in 2002, too, when our Bundes-Gerd showed some balls and exposed the girl from west texas as the warmonger he was (and still is). History proved Gerhardt right.

Morality is becoming more and more counterproductive when it comes to economy. My conclusion is that economy should change, rather than ethics.

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In this case a member of the political party FDP spoke, who is leader of the DIHK. But the DIHK is not the voice of the industry. The voice of the industry is the BDI.

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On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
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How? If people are drinking and destroying machines or so - that is counterproductive. Or if you have to pay lots of bribes - that is counterpoductive. Or if there are costs you are not able to calculate. I heard a few weeks ago the report of a german businessman (Hi-Tech) who spoke about the situation in China and he warned to have the feeling it is easy to earn money in China. The production cost in China exploded - although the workers are not earning a lot of money - and he has higher costs in producing in China as he had costs before in Germany.

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Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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东风吹,战鼓擂,当今世界谁怕谁
非我族类,其心必异
laca,没必要跟他们交流,讲道理的,因为压根就没有用,他们根本就不在乎中国.他们想整我们,我们还击 就是了.德国都快成老龄社会了,他们自己也不想想办法,世界粮食上涨了也是发展中国家的错,德国的总理居然 说"就当印度人每天多吃一顿饭好了"
Laca,support you.up!

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and what barbarians has been raping china exactly?

So I take it the message from you, well people from china actually, is; “call us out on human rights at your own peril”....okay well, that certainly is your right, but I’ll let the moral imperatives speak for themselves.

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Same to you!

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On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-QCvB4m1U

Winter et al-

as it appears the forum cannot translate your keystrokes due to language issues, you might be better off, using English characters to post messages etc. IF you have a post you would prefer seen by one intended poster only, you can use the PM feature.

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

They are trying, they are tryiing, but remember China is not little Serbia and Tibet is not Kosovo. Message to western barbarians is very simple: Don’t mess with us, don’t try to bite us we can easily brake your barbaric teeth. Just give us brake it's better for you as well.

Nobody is messing with you in Australia, dear laca.......

Matt

LMAO Oh, do tell!!!! Well, unlike what your bosses are tellling you on how great you are, the rest of the world knows you're completely dependent on Western and Pac Rim investment, technology, and managment to sustain your little criminal labor racketeering 'boom', right down to the machine tools. you couldn't make a screwdriver without outside partners, so we just find your little pissant threats hilarious.

Please make more of them, so the lurkers here can learn even more about how little Party parasites like you think, and the true fecklessness and ignorance of your ilk. Things are already moving ahead in the local politics of many countries. Your little holiday is drawing to a close, and soon you'll be back to digging ditches again, Hero.

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LMAO! Well, a screwdriver is more complicated than atom bomb.


So the things in China are not moving ahead.

Maybe that's the beautiful picture of you, who knows?