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you cannot imagine how much I agree with your first response, "white mans burden", is an interesting book that categorizes and catalogues our screw ups and successes in Africa regards aid and help in all its forms etc...the success almost uniformly came as result of higher native influences and involvement in the decision making process….My only defense would be they meant well, and do some good as well, but as usual that doesn’t always translate into success, hopefully they got past this …..and remember as well, ngos etc are not immune, ala the UN etc…we have been at some of this for decades..

I liken it to a virus vaccine, you hope it just inoculates and kills any form of that virus, and you hope is does not make you sick or sicker as well…
Well, I'll allow that some meant well but, as I'm sure you know, some people are downright vicious -- and no, not just the white man.

BTW, would you argue that capitalism isn't predatory in nature?
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Meanwhile, the government of Myanmar is still preventing aid:



I really can't formulate the words. This is just so stunningly, amazingly depraved........

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Couldn't agree more. And i think that aid should be air dropped regardless.

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Couldn't agree more. And i think that aid should be air dropped regardless.

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It's gotten worse - the government is seizing aid delivered by the UN.

I started a separate thread on it.

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Well, I'll allow that some meant well but, as I'm sure you know, some people are downright vicious -- and no, not just the white man.

BTW, would you argue that capitalism isn't predatory in nature?
Predatory in nature? Pogo humans are predatory in nature. As a form of economic mechanism, I’d say it’s the least predatory.
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Predatory in nature? Pogo humans are predatory in nature. As a form of economic mechanism, I’d say it’s the least predatory.
Well, the least predatory of the 2 dominant socio-economic systems, state socialism being the other; however, insofar as every possible alternative is concerned, I'd say we could do a whole lot better is we chose to.
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Predatory in nature? Pogo humans are predatory in nature. As a form of economic mechanism, I’d say it’s the least predatory.

Capitalism would be the most predatory economic system by far as it converts every inch of land and ocean, and every living being (including humans) into a commodity.

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Well, the least predatory of the 2 dominant socio-economic systems, state socialism being the other; however, insofar as every possible alternative is concerned, I'd say we could do a whole lot better is we chose to.
sure but you take incremental gains when you can. if there were another that could return humanitarian gains without some of the capitalist mechanisms that helps create and buttress avarice etc. I'd be all for it.
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And on another note it appears a report is out according to the tele, that opec nations have given basically squat regarding the humanitarian disaster that has occurred in Burma et al.
Food riots in Africa etc. are to a very large extent energy driven, and they aren’t giving much along those liens either despite influx’s of cash here to fore unseen into their coffers.
I’ll try to dig up a link to such ..
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